Polo tdi high idle issue... going to Hatfield Thursday :)

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Polo tdi high idle issue... going to Hatfield Thursday :)

Postby Veedubbed » Tue Nov 10, 2009 10:51 am

Hi Guys

Dont know if I just got a bad batch of 50 but my car was sometimes idling at 1000 revs instead of 1 mark below that. Put 500 in last night and it seems to have solved that problem. Anyone else had similiar issues with diesel?
Last edited by Veedubbed on Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:11 pm, edited 4 times in total.
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Kamz
Wheel Whore
Posts: 10
Joined: Fri May 29, 2009 3:20 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Tdi
Membership No: 1401
Location: Centurion
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Kamz » Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:22 am

I only use 50 PPM .. never ever had that problem

User avatar
baby boss
Cadet
Posts: 333
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 12:42 pm
Car Make: audi
Car Model: RS 3
Membership No: missing
Location: centurion
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby baby boss » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:20 pm

strange - wher u fill up ?
BABYBOSS RS-3

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Veedubbed » Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:26 pm

Did it again today as I was leaving for lunch but settled down again. Maybe this was the remaining of the crap engen 50 ppm? Maybe I have a faulty MAF?
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
kripstoe
Captain
Posts: 2156
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:05 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf GTI
Membership No: 1379
Location: Durbanville
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby kripstoe » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:03 pm

Nothing to do with 50ppm IMHO.
Image
Current: '15 Mk7 Golf 2.0 TSI Performance Pack DSG®
Ex: '13 Mk7 Golf 2.0 TDI Comfortline
Ex: '10 6R Polo 1.6 TDI Comfortline
Ex: '06 9N3 Polo 1.9 TDI Highline
Ex: '98 6N Polo 1.8i Lux
Ex: '96 Chico 1.3... it was green

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Neuk » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:41 pm

I am not sure if it is the diesel, although some guys have had funny things happen with different diesels, my car has always behaved in a largely similar manner, but I always, religiously use 50ppm...
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

User avatar
T_Di_4
Cadet
Posts: 55
Joined: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:43 pm
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby T_Di_4 » Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:45 pm

veedubbed wrote:Did it again today as I was leaving for lunch but settled down again. Maybe this was the remaining of the crap engen 50 ppm? Maybe I have a faulty MAF?



Strickly Shell
Image

'05 Polo TDi_GIAC
130kw_400nm
ex: '94 Golf GTi 2L 8v

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Veedubbed » Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:58 pm

Hey guys... Car has settled down so maybe it was a little glitch somewhere. Will keep an eye on it and try use V power 50ppm only!
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

diesel 500ppm/50 ppm - higher idle - Dont think its the dies

Postby Veedubbed » Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:32 pm

So car behaved fine for a day but I never drove it at night or during the day so I never used the lights or aircon. Car seems to move to a slightly faster idle at 1000 revs when the lights or aircon are switched on. Battery or alternator issue maybe?
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
ree1
Captain
Posts: 2395
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:02 pm
Car Make: BMW
Car Model: 2014 220i
Membership No: missing
Location: Durban
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby ree1 » Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:38 pm

my car does that when it idles for long it goes up to 1000rpm :eek:

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm/50 ppm - higher idle - Dont think its the dies

Postby Neuk » Thu Nov 12, 2009 7:27 pm

veedubbed wrote:So car behaved fine for a day but I never drove it at night or during the day so I never used the lights or aircon. Car seems to move to a slightly faster idle at 1000 revs when the lights or aircon are switched on. Battery or alternator issue maybe?


When you have your lights or aircon on, you are drawing more power or energy from the engine sometimes requiring a higher idle rpm...
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Veedubbed » Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:48 pm

Booked the car in for Monday. Dont think its a normal thing as it would have done it since I bought the car. Also have a "shhh shh shh" sound from the front wheels at slow speed with or without applying the brakes. It had the brakes and the bushes done at the dealer about a month ago. Car is on 42k so maybe its just asking for its service a little bit early :wink:
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
ree1
Captain
Posts: 2395
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:02 pm
Car Make: BMW
Car Model: 2014 220i
Membership No: missing
Location: Durban
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby ree1 » Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:01 pm

veedubbed wrote:Booked the car in for Monday. Dont think its a normal thing as it would have done it since I bought the car. Also have a "shhh shh shh" sound from the front wheels at slow speed with or without applying the brakes. It had the brakes and the bushes done at the dealer about a month ago. Car is on 42k so maybe its just asking for its service a little bit early :wink:


I hear that too

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby Veedubbed » Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:56 pm

ree1 you sure you not driving my car around hehehehehehehehe
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
ree1
Captain
Posts: 2395
Joined: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:02 pm
Car Make: BMW
Car Model: 2014 220i
Membership No: missing
Location: Durban
Contact:

Re: diesel 500ppm vs 50 ppm - higher idle

Postby ree1 » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:38 am

veedubbed wrote:ree1 you sure you not driving my car around hehehehehehehehe


Lol must check up on ur car at night. Jokin

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Veedubbed » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:01 pm

Sent my car in today...

Got a call from vw now.. They keeping my car to test out the idle issue as it is not a constant high idle. They want to check with VWSA on what it could be. It apparently happens without the aircon and lights being on as well.

On the subject of the "shhh" "shhh" noise from the front wheels when cold - they saying it is a tire noise - as brakes and LCA bushes have been changed and the noise persists... <- I will follow up on this issue, swop the front wheels with others(different tire make) to test...
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Neuk » Mon Nov 16, 2009 4:07 pm

veedubbed wrote:Got a call from vw now.. They keeping my car to test out the idle issue as it is not a constant high idle. They want to check with VWSA on what it could be. It apparently happens without the aircon and lights being on as well.


Let us know the findings...

veedubbed wrote:On the subject of the "shhh" "shhh" noise from the front wheels when cold - they saying it is a tire noise - as brakes and LCA bushes have been changed and the noise persists... <- I will follow up on this issue, swop the front wheels with others(different tire make) to test...


Could well be tyres, Polo's and similar chassis' show saw-tooth wear which makes this noise, my car has the same issue...

Cheers
Nic
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

User avatar
devZo
Cadet
Posts: 725
Joined: Mon Apr 02, 2007 12:29 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Polo TSI
Membership No: 1395
Location: DBN
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby devZo » Mon Nov 16, 2009 7:20 pm

my car went in on thursday for the same issue and they werent able to 'diagnose' the problem. It went in this morning again, got a call from the service manager saying they want to keep the car for further testing...my problem seems to be a little worse though-it idles at around 1300 and resets to below 1000 when you tap on the accelerator...
Polo TSI Highline DSG
ex:Polo TSI Comfortline
ex:MKVII GTI DSG
ex:MKVI GTI DSG CPi Tuned
ex:MKV GTI CPi Tuned
ex:Polo TDI Sportline
ex:VeloCiti 1.4i
Ex-Rides Thread

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Veedubbed » Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:53 pm

Phoned them today and told them to check out the state of the battery... They phoned me now and said they have checked everything and the car is plugged in - apparently to vwsa? as the dealer has never seen an issue like this on a s/l. They asked if they can keep it for one more day. aaargh! Oh well as long as they come up with a solution!

Must say im appreciating the polo as I'm cruising around in my dads citi 1.6i. Its a bit rough around the edges after driving the polo for over a year! BRAKES!!!! lol
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Veedubbed » Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:47 pm

Bruma VW phoned me today informing me that my car might need to stay one more day. Apparently everything possible thing has been checked on but it is still sometimes idling at 1000revs and they are resorting to changing the throttle body but dont have any in stock... So I might get my car back today but will have to return it again when it arrives :(
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Neuk » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:20 pm

veedubbed wrote:Bruma VW phoned me today informing me that my car might need to stay one more day. Apparently everything possible thing has been checked on but it is still sometimes idling at 1000revs and they are resorting to changing the throttle body but dont have any in stock... So I might get my car back today but will have to return it again when it arrives :(


Huh - TB on a TDi :roll:
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Veedubbed » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:33 pm

Thats what the service advisor told me :P Im not too clued up on the diesel engine. Im seriously thinking of getting the car from them this afternoon and booking it into hatfield. I should have taken it there in the first place but thought it would be a simple fix!
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: tdi higher idle issue

Postby Neuk » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:05 pm

veedubbed wrote:Thats what the service advisor told me :P Im not too clued up on the diesel engine. Im seriously thinking of getting the car from them this afternoon and booking it into hatfield. I should have taken it there in the first place but thought it would be a simple fix!


Ask them to explain further, TDi's don't have throttle bodies...
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

User avatar
Veedubbed
Photographer
Photographer
Posts: 3838
Joined: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:45 am
Car Make: Seat
Car Model: Seat Ibiza Cupra 20VT
Membership No: 1998
Contact:

Re: Polo tdi higher idle issue...

Postby Veedubbed » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:25 pm

I will ask them to at around 16:30 when they get back to me... I was thinking more on the lines of a faulty MAF sensor or battery but who knows. They got new service advisors there recently- Got a snotty "How do you know?" when I told them it needed LCA bushes and I was right so maybe they need a push in the right direction? lol
Current
El Toro
2009 Seat Ibiza Cupra 1.8T(El Toro)


Ex
Turbo Killer Sportline
2007 - Polo TDI Sportline
"I live my life 1 turbo at a time."

User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 47201
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '15 Golf R
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg
Contact:

Re: Polo tdi higher idle issue...

Postby Neuk » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:30 pm

veedubbed wrote:I will ask them to at around 16:30 when they get back to me... I was thinking more on the lines of a faulty MAF sensor or battery but who knows. They got new service advisors there recently- Got a snotty "How do you know?" when I told them it needed LCA bushes and I was right so maybe they need a push in the right direction? lol


Nothing pisses me off more than an attitude like that :mad: I have learnt that it is in rare cases that dealerships actually know what is best...
Nic
Membership No.: 0806

Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2015 VW Golf R
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's

Return to “General Tech Discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: razzberry2 and 40 guests