95 Octane fuel quality

Turbo_Volksie · Post by **Turbo_Volksie** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:10 am

Has anyone experimented with different fuel manufacturers and in some way determined either what is the best? You could probably refer to what works the best with your car or who's fuel is the most consistent.

I am trying to establish if there is actually a difference. A member of the Subaru club recons that BP is the way to go.

Your comments... What works well with turbo cars.

Cheers

Hackernen · Post by **Hackernen** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:31 am

In Durban no other fuel give same performance or econmy.
Def BP ftw

GtiDog · Post by **GtiDog** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:36 am

Hi There

Yes we did....

The best by far is BP 95

And if you want propper fuel, do the following

take 40 liters of BP95 unleaded fuel.
Mix 2.5 Liter Xylene and 2.5 Liter Taleune in the petrol to give you close to 99 Octane fuel

If you have a "BIT" of a problem with flames comming out of the exhaust, you can mix 400 ml MOTUL two stroke oil in the mix

the collective · Post by **the collective** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:40 am

When I lived in Durban BP definitely gave better performance and fuel economy. Up here in JHB though I dont feel much difference between brands.

Post by **RoadHaWg** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:40 am

I use Shell Vpower and BP ultimate.

No idea why tho!!

VeeRar6ix · Post by **VeeRar6ix** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:42 am

turbo cars love BP 95 for some reason...

palaton · Post by **palaton** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:19 am

I have tried using different fuels, but can't honestly say that I have ever felt a difference, although I prefer to run my 2.0 mk3 GTi on LRP.

I try to fill up only with Sasol and Total, because I prefer to support
SA oil instead of British and US products.

I have started to read about the way big oil companies, especially in the US are intimidating, discrediting and asassinating inventors who are working on free energy fuels and motors. Basically due to the internet, their grip on power is slowly being eroded as these garage scientists start to re-discover free and clean sources, which the oil companies are hell-bent on surpressing.

Read about the Joe-cell and it's inventor and see for yourself.

VW MAN · Post by **VW MAN** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:30 am

i stick to shell V power and i also seem to get the best consumption when using it.

Tried BP ultimate sometime ago got like 50 kms less on a tank...so much for going further.

remember petrol is all the same as they all flow through same distribution pipe but the additives is what sets them apart really.

Hotdubz · Post by **Hotdubz** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:36 am

when i was in durbs me car ran best with BP, up in jozi me car runs best with Sasol (Power and Fuel consumption).

But i've also noticed that petrol smells different here in jozi compared to durbs. is it just my imagination or is the petrol different?

GtiDog · Post by **GtiDog** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:43 am

Hotdubz wrote:when i was in durbs me car ran best with BP, up in jozi me car runs best with Sasol (Power and Fuel consumption).

But i've also noticed that petrol smells different here in jozi compared to durbs. is it just my imagination or is the petrol different?

Petrol is different yes, engines work differently at coastal level and at our level, so you need better fuel at the coast to prevent detonation

That is why we run Talaune and Xylene in our fuel here in JHB

DevashC · Post by **DevashC** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:44 am

BP does the trick....

turbo freak · Post by **turbo freak** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:34 pm

VW MAN wrote:i stick to shell V power and i also seem to get the best consumption when using it.

Tried BP ultimate sometime ago got like 50 kms less on a tank...so much for going further.

remember petrol is all the same as they all flow through same distribution pipe but the additives is what sets them apart really.

I used 95 Shell V Power and i had endless boosting issues on my car.
The Garage i used to till had new tanks etc so i know it wasnt picking up dirt.

I changed to BP and no jokes - Boosting issues were sorted.
Till this day i have no issues.
I met another guy that drives a Brand new Scooby STi.
He filled up with Shell as well and and had issues with boosting.
(Tried a few Shell Garages)

He filled up BP 95 and problem solved.
I ONLY Use BP Ultimate 95 now - Nothing else.
Car runs smoother and no hic cups @ all.
Oh and my consumption is better.

BP 95 Rox !!!

Sp00nman · Post by **Sp00nman** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:56 pm

BP 95 + DF 20 FTW~!!!

GtiDog · Post by **GtiDog** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:16 pm

Sp00nman wrote:BP 95 + DF 20 FTW~!!!

For the price of DF it is not worth it.

Rather buy 20 liter of Xylene and 20 Liter of Taleune and mix yourself

Works out SO MUCH CHEAPER and the performance with the mix is WAY better than DF , same thing at the end, the mix just stronger

I34z1k · Post by **I34z1k** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:32 pm

Where and how much in what quantities?

Pilatus · Post by **Pilatus** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:19 pm

ONLY BP 95UL

because I also fly my aircraft with a Rotax 912UL engine on this.

The reason we do this test is to check for alcohol in the fuel.

Because you want the best in an aircraft, I did a couple of tests with water mixed with all the fuel available in Durban. BP and Total had virtually the same excellent results, that is, the water did not mix with the fuel at all, and immediately separated from the fuel to the bottom of the container after a couple of shakes, while with all the others, the water mixed with the fuel, stayed in suspension for about 10 minutes before very slowly separating and drained to the bottom of the container.

IMO, the worst one in this test I have done with water mixed with fuel was with Engen. Stayed very long in suspension and coloured the water/fuel mix almost to a milk colour

I will stick with BP 95UL, as in my opinion and according to the tests I have done, is better/cleaner for my application. Must say it seems that our SA fuel has no alcohol in it, as my test proved.

Also, the BP 95 UL is a nice green colour, while the others is the normal orange/copper colour like the old LRP has.

Hackernen · Post by **Hackernen** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:30 pm

GtiDog wrote:Hi There

Yes we did....

The best by far is BP 95

And if you want propper fuel, do the following

take 40 liters of BP95 unleaded fuel.
Mix 2.5 Liter Xylene and 2.5 Liter Taleune in the petrol to give you close to 99 Octane fuel

If you have a "BIT" of a problem with flames comming out of the exhaust, you can mix 400 ml MOTUL two stroke oil in the mix

how safe is this on a decated MKV GTI.

what prices for the 25L. and from where

Post by **Rabbit222** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:40 pm

I have tried 3 types of fuels:

Sasol, car felt responsive but consumption wasn't great.

Shell, consumption was good but performance is crap.

BP Ultimate Unleaded 95 takes the cake.

GtiDog · Post by **GtiDog** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:01 pm

This mix is safe to run in any car you are willing to put stuff like DF in your tank. SO yes, safe for decatted ANY car or NON decatted ANY car

This mix does not have any LEAD in it, so it is safe for unleaded or leaded cars.

The safest way to run this is the following formula

40 Liters on BP95 unleaded fuel.
2.5 Liters of Xylene ( it costs R 11 per liter - 20 liter drums )
2.5 liters Taleune ( It costs R 10 per liter - 20 liter drums )

SO in a Jerrycan which is 20 Liters, you should end up with 1.25 liter X and 1.25 liter T, but that would overfill the Jerrycan.

so Put 18 liters of BP 95 Unleaded in the jerry can and mix 900ml of each in the tank ... the extra 100 ml won't hurt in anycase

1.) Be carefull as these are very dangerous stuff, use in highly ventelated areas, same as you would do with paint thinners.
2.) Do not exceed the explained quantities, Xylene tends to eat away rubber.
3.) This is actually preffered more for Turbo engines, since it helps to prevent detonation ( burning quality and cooling of the fuel helps )

SO work it out

I can of DF20 is like R 120 at the garage. This treats 50 liters.

20 liter Taleune in R 200
20 liter Xylene is R 220

On 40 liters you would use lets say 2 liters of each, so you have 10 tanks you can treat.

R 200 / 10 = R 20 per tank for the Taulene
R 210 / 10 = R 21 per tank for the Xylene

SO it is R 41 per tank

Hackernen · Post by **Hackernen** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:10 pm

What bout spark plugs. does it fowl them like df

and where to buy T and X in durbs.

vwpro · Post by **vwpro** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:53 pm

I34z1k wrote:Where and how much in what quantities?

http://www.vwclub.co.za/vwforum/viewtopic.php?t=50797

I34z1k · Post by **I34z1k** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:00 pm

I meant to buy

nick · Post by **nick** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:05 pm

I also find my car seems most happiest on BP, then Caltex after that. rest dont seem to cut it.

Slowboat · Post by **Slowboat** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:31 am

Yep BP 95 is the better fuel for my MK5 GTI up here in JHB. Do get better fuel consumption by around 30-50km more. Also the GTI runs smoother.

Inferno · Post by **Inferno** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:16 pm

GtiDog wrote:Hi There

Yes we did....

The best by far is BP 95

And if you want propper fuel, do the following

take 40 liters of BP95 unleaded fuel.
Mix 2.5 Liter Xylene and 2.5 Liter Taleune in the petrol to give you close to 99 Octane fuel

If you have a "BIT" of a problem with flames comming out of the exhaust, you can mix 400 ml MOTUL two stroke oil in the mix

hey GtiDog, where do you get your Toluene and Xylene from? Do you order them directly from the chemical wholesalers like Merck or Aldrich (although i do know that they sell in bulk) or is there another supplier that sells the goods? Also, what grade ie. which percentage purity is good for this application?

95 Octane fuel quality

95 Octane fuel quality

BP

Not sure if I have ever felt a difference

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