Dictator 60-2 no trigger

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Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by Armand » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:03 pm

Hi I need some advice, car was running good and I took of positive battery cable to work pn alternator and after that it wont start again, I only get red light when cranking as if there is no signal from crank sensor, tested sensor and found I dont get 5v signal to crank sensor from ecu when car is switched on, any advice?
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2011 Black 6R Polo Gti (Forge intake, Viper dp, Stage 2 DNA sw)
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2007 Polo gti (Giac software, 76mm dp, ITG Induction, custom FMIC)
2009 Citi 1.4i sport
1997 Uno turbo ( w/m, Tdo4 turbo, intercooler,76mm exhaust
Bmw 540i e34 (Standard)
Nissan 3.0 v6 (Brospeed branches and exhaust)
2009 Polo gti (Giac software)
Suzuki gsxr1000 k5 (Everything)
Vw caddy club (Mp9 conver, Branches, exhaust, chip)
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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by panic-mechanic » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:51 pm

That is a magnetic trigger - it does not get 5v. It generates it's own voltage.
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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by Armand » Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:59 pm

quote=panic-mechanic post_id=2571652 time=1533837070 user_id=43]
That is a magnetic trigger - it does not get 5v. It generates it's own voltage.
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It has 3 wires
Current:
2011 Black 6R Polo Gti (Forge intake, Viper dp, Stage 2 DNA sw)
Ex:
2007 Polo gti (Giac software, 76mm dp, ITG Induction, custom FMIC)
2009 Citi 1.4i sport
1997 Uno turbo ( w/m, Tdo4 turbo, intercooler,76mm exhaust
Bmw 540i e34 (Standard)
Nissan 3.0 v6 (Brospeed branches and exhaust)
2009 Polo gti (Giac software)
Suzuki gsxr1000 k5 (Everything)
Vw caddy club (Mp9 conver, Branches, exhaust, chip)
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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by panic-mechanic » Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:58 pm

yes it does. 1 is signal negative 2 is signal positive and 3 is the shield wire.
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'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
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'05 Touareg v10

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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by Armand » Fri Aug 10, 2018 12:06 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:58 pm
yes it does. 1 is signal negative 2 is signal positive and 3 is the shield wire.
How can I test it, car never had a problem starting and what else can I look at, red light comes on but none of the other lights come on when cranking
Current:
2011 Black 6R Polo Gti (Forge intake, Viper dp, Stage 2 DNA sw)
Ex:
2007 Polo gti (Giac software, 76mm dp, ITG Induction, custom FMIC)
2009 Citi 1.4i sport
1997 Uno turbo ( w/m, Tdo4 turbo, intercooler,76mm exhaust
Bmw 540i e34 (Standard)
Nissan 3.0 v6 (Brospeed branches and exhaust)
2009 Polo gti (Giac software)
Suzuki gsxr1000 k5 (Everything)
Vw caddy club (Mp9 conver, Branches, exhaust, chip)
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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by panic-mechanic » Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:38 pm

to test you either swop it or you use a oscilloscope. With a scope you can see if the trigger is giving you a proper output signal.
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'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
'09 Audi Q5 3l tdi
'95 Audi 90 coupe quattro
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
'05 Touareg v10

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Re: Dictator 60-2 no trigger

Post by Armand » Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:59 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:
Fri Aug 10, 2018 7:38 pm
to test you either swop it or you use a oscilloscope. With a scope you can see if the trigger is giving you a proper output signal.
Thanks, I think I am going to try and get a new one, only details I have on the one that is being used now is that it has been bought at goldwagen and that it is a opel part, all it say on the sensor is DS 1806 and the nr 180817A
Current:
2011 Black 6R Polo Gti (Forge intake, Viper dp, Stage 2 DNA sw)
Ex:
2007 Polo gti (Giac software, 76mm dp, ITG Induction, custom FMIC)
2009 Citi 1.4i sport
1997 Uno turbo ( w/m, Tdo4 turbo, intercooler,76mm exhaust
Bmw 540i e34 (Standard)
Nissan 3.0 v6 (Brospeed branches and exhaust)
2009 Polo gti (Giac software)
Suzuki gsxr1000 k5 (Everything)
Vw caddy club (Mp9 conver, Branches, exhaust, chip)
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