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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by blou_poot » Wed May 09, 2018 11:09 pm

Hi PaPajo,

Yes... I want to be driving already as i am a very impatient person.

However, i believe in doing the right things right...

So patience is key.

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by panic-mechanic » Thu May 10, 2018 12:07 pm

PapaJo wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 10:53 pm
blou_poot wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:48 pm
Thanks Panic.

Will also relook the throttle body perhaps fit alternative part.

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A nice upgrade is if you can get an Audi 500 tb and bolt that on.

Motor looks to be an a decent condition. Were you shaking from excitement? Some pictures a bit blurry.
Huh? Audi 500 has the exact same TB minus the TPS.
it was JUST the mk1 8v gti /cti that had the small throttle body. All the 16v's has the big one already.
Mk2 GTi also had the big one on already.
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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Thu May 10, 2018 12:33 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 12:07 pm
PapaJo wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 10:53 pm
blou_poot wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:48 pm
Thanks Panic.

Will also relook the throttle body perhaps fit alternative part.

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A nice upgrade is if you can get an Audi 500 tb and bolt that on.

Motor looks to be an a decent condition. Were you shaking from excitement? Some pictures a bit blurry.
Huh? Audi 500 has the exact same TB minus the TPS.
it was JUST the mk1 8v gti /cti that had the small throttle body. All the 16v's has the big one already.
Mk2 GTi also had the big one on already.
Apologies, my mistake then. Must have been thinking off the mk1 8V one then.
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Post by panic-mechanic » Thu May 10, 2018 12:49 pm

Yup. Mk1 and cti had a much smaller secondary throttle flap. Mk2 gti and the 16v's all had the big one - same as audi 500.
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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by blou_poot » Thu May 10, 2018 4:56 pm

Thanks guys.

I thought it through again and easiest would be to install my mp9 throttle as the 9a one has brittle plastic parts.

Will make up adapters fir the mp9 throttle body and a block off plate for the idle control 5th injector.

Will buy new clutch as the pressure plate was not removed when selling the 8v. Which i believe is also for the best.

One question: i believe i might have gotten the wrong alternator please see images as the pulleys do not line up.

What would be best to rectify it? ImageImageImage

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Thu May 10, 2018 5:47 pm

That alternator looks like it is swapped out and a 8V one. Check the part number on the sticker on the casing to verify amp rating. Can you line up and fit it over the mounting point below where it is now?
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Post by blou_poot » Wed May 16, 2018 2:13 pm

My thinking exactly... Its a 90A one.

This is not nice...

Probably wont be able to use the alternator now?

Please advise if the alternator in the image will work? As this is also a 90amp one.ImageImage

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by missioner » Wed May 16, 2018 3:49 pm

Under the aircon bracket is the correct alternator bracket that will line it all up. Take that piece of junk a/c bracket off and you will see what I mean.

The Mk2 and others ran the alternator off of the aircon pulley
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Post by blou_poot » Wed May 16, 2018 4:36 pm

Thanks Missioner,

Will have a look.

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Wed May 16, 2018 4:43 pm

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Under the aircon bracket is the correct alternator bracket that will line it all up. Take that piece of junk a/c bracket off and you will see what I mean.

The Mk2 and others ran the alternator off of the aircon pulley
Missioner is right

Yes you can use the 90A on your car.
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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by panic-mechanic » Thu May 17, 2018 2:00 pm

Alternator was driven by the aircon pump. Aircon is missing so the alternator now does not line up as it was never meant to. But you can make it work by moving it and changing the pulley
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Post by blou_poot » Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm

Will do pickup today for correct alternator, should be in Namibia by the weekend.

Hopefully it will work...

This is the only thing keeping me from starting the car.

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Post by blou_poot » Thu May 17, 2018 2:08 pm

Had a look lastnight at the mounting under the aircon bracket.

Seems the cambelt might catch the alternator, however have not dummie fitted it yet will do so this weekend.

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Thu May 17, 2018 4:35 pm

blou_poot wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 2:05 pm
Will do pickup today for correct alternator, should be in Namibia by the weekend.

Hopefully it will work...

This is the only thing keeping me from starting the car.

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Is all the wiring and install done, already??

Pictures or it didn’t happen.
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Post by blou_poot » Thu May 17, 2018 4:56 pm

Need to fasten mountings...

Dicktator needs 6 odd wires or so as i will be running map.

Will take pictures Saterday morning.

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Thu May 17, 2018 7:10 pm

blou_poot wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 4:56 pm
Need to fasten mountings...

Dicktator needs 6 odd wires or so as i will be running map.

Will take pictures Saterday morning.

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MAP sensor is build into ecu, just need to connect the vacuum line to the intake.
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Post by blou_poot » Thu May 17, 2018 7:17 pm

Yip... Water temp... Power... Dizzy and coil...

Have experience with wiring agter my many mp9 and dicktstor woes....

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Post by blou_poot » Thu May 17, 2018 8:20 pm

Very bad pics... Water pipes need to be connected...

And the alternator...ImageImage

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Post by blou_poot » Fri May 18, 2018 11:08 am

While fitting...

So much excitement... Hopefully i can get everything done including dyno before the 5th to test 1/4 mile time.ImageImage

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Fri May 18, 2018 12:58 pm

You don’t play.... you will be starting soon by the looks of it.
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Post by blou_poot » Fri May 18, 2018 1:13 pm

Yip... Hopegully... It also helped that i sourced or had most parts in order to fit the engine... A lil research goes a long way.

One question. The alternator if i use the bracket already on the block it looks like the cambelt might be in the way. Hopefully the new one will fit better.

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Fri May 18, 2018 2:09 pm

blou_poot wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 1:13 pm
Yip... Hopegully... It also helped that i sourced or had most parts in order to fit the engine... A lil research goes a long way.

One question. The alternator if i use the bracket already on the block it looks like the cambelt might be in the way. Hopefully the new one will fit better.

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Panic answered your alternator question earlier. Think you will need to dummy fit and measure and possibly space out or change pulley to line all up and have clearance.
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Post by blou_poot » Fri May 18, 2018 2:11 pm

Will do...

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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

Post by PapaJo » Sat May 19, 2018 1:27 pm

Update??

Did you start?
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Post by blou_poot » Sat May 19, 2018 1:54 pm

Not yet... Still waiting on alternator.

Fitted branch today and water pipes etc... Will load video once started.

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