Dicktator STD assist needed

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Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:06 pm

Hi Guys
need some assistance with my dickator STD connection. im using a VR6 OBD2 TB.
this how i wired the TPS up followed this diagram Image
pin1 -12 Volt Sense Red / Yellow(dic 17). can i use the same power supply as injectors
pin2 - Idle Control Negative(dic 18)
pin3 - dont know what to connect to this pin
Pin4- -VE(dic10)
pin5- TPS Red / White 5 Volt Sensor woPositive(dic14)
pin7 - Blue/ Grey TPS Signal (dic3)

injectors wiring
Injector Brown 1-Gry/Blu/Gry/Red (dic19)
Injector Brown 2 -Gry /Gry/Grn (dic20)
12 Volt Sense Red / Yellow 12v injector supply red(dic17)

Tp100
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Green Input from distributor or crank trigger TPS pin 6 (dic1)
where should the POT signal go
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Sat Jan 21, 2017 11:44 pm

Do you have this drawing from Dicktators website?

http://www.dicktator.co.za/Dicktator%20 ... layout.pdf
Pin 6 (ignition 1 output) needs to be wired to pin 6 on TP100.
Distributor signal wire must be wired to pin 1 on Dicktator.
POT pin 13 on Dictator is wired to the trim pot if selection in software is selected for POT when you want to enrich or lean out the fuel mixture. You will need the trim pot in the wiring harnass too.

Pin1 on obd2 is wired to same 12v from ecu and pin 18 on Dicktator to pun 2 idle control negative.

Odb2 pin 3 not used afaik.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:45 am

Thank you sir
that will help a lot
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Fri Feb 17, 2017 3:34 pm

Hi Guy
another question on Dicktator management
does the following mean I can do wasted spark as I can click on the option?
why would I be here if you can use it?
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by THANAS » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:00 pm

No you can't. Dicktator standard has only a single usable ignition driver.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Fri Feb 17, 2017 4:49 pm

Zuna wrote:Hi Guy
another question on Dicktator management
does the following mean I can do wasted spark as I can click on the option?
why would I be here if you can use it?
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Common software platform, but as Thanas has said, the answer is no.

Guess you are still setting up the system. 7700 rev limit is high or are you planning some serious motor mods for that?
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Fri Feb 17, 2017 5:01 pm

okay cool thanks guys.
@PapaJo yes I'm still trying to setup
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:27 am

There should be a CD with start up maps and the Software guide in the box with the unit when purchased. The software guide tells you how to setup the sensors and explain the different functions. If you don't have it go to www.Dicktator.co.za and navigate from there to the software guide page.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:57 am

guy not sure where I'm going wrong.
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according to diagram pin 1 green wire need to go to hall sensor right.
and yellow/black need to go to pin 6 of TP100.
these two share the green/white wire on the ignition harness going from tp100 to dizzy.
should I cut the wire and connect the pin 1 from dictator to end that goes to dizzy and the yellow/black to the end that goes to tp100.

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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by blou_poot » Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:00 pm

Use the 3 pin coil and ditch the tp100...

Less wires and easier to install.

Are you currently using the 2 pin coil?

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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:07 pm

yes ive got oil filled coil and TP100
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:06 pm

Zuna wrote:guy not sure where I'm going wrong.
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according to diagram pin 1 green wire need to go to hall sensor right.
and yellow/black need to go to pin 6 of TP100.
these two share the green/white wire on the ignition harness going from tp100 to dizzy.
should I cut the wire and connect the pin 1 from dictator to end that goes to dizzy and the yellow/black to the end that goes to tp100.

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The distributor signal (center wire) gets wired to the green wire on Dicktator on pin 1. Before Dicktator it was wired to pin 6 on the TP 100, so you cut it at the distributor end or at the TP100 end where ever it is the most easiest to splice in the Dicktator loom and connect the signal to pin 1 on Dicktator (Green wire) and then from Dicktator Ignition 1 out (Yellow/black) wire you connect that to pin 6 on the TP 100.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:34 am

You have PM.
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Post by Cyle16v » Sun Mar 19, 2017 7:50 am

Just an idea...is it not possible to wire it up for the 3 pin coil...that way you do away with the tp100?

Thats what i did for the caddy. Works better if you ask me!
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:50 am

Cyle16v wrote:Just an idea...is it not possible to wire it up for the 3 pin coil...that way you do away with the tp100?

Thats what i did for the caddy. Works better if you ask me!
Yes it does, but OP has a round coil and TP100 he want to use.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Thu Mar 23, 2017 8:49 pm

Update??
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:34 am

I tried everything you advised @ PapaJo but its still not starting. I haven't worked on it since then. the abf dizzy cap is broken so I have to use normal dizzy cap so I think I might have ignition cables in wrong place. I'm working on it again on Thursday will load my setup over here then.
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:11 am

Check if distributor rotor is pointing to cylinder 1 plug lead when on TDC.

16V plugwires firing order is 1-3-4-2 in anti clockwise direction and not clockwise like 8V.

Have you tested/checked for spark?
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Mon Apr 10, 2017 10:49 am

yes I did get spark from the abf dizzy cap. but was weak but I think it was because of the cap being broken
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Post by panic-mechanic » Mon Apr 10, 2017 1:07 pm

Normal cap does not fit on abf dissy. Screw on vs clip on
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Post by Zuna » Mon Apr 10, 2017 2:56 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:Normal cap does not fit on abf dissy. Screw on vs clip on
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by Zuna » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:03 pm

still not able to start.
I have checked the ignition cables order is correct and TDC dizzy points to NO 1
ive tried crank angles 50 57 and 45
still no luck
RPM will show digits once I turn key to start

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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by THANAS » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:31 pm

Do yourself a favour, if you're just trying to get a basic start up map going, don't use 17 load sites per RPM range for the fuelling, just use the normal 7/9 can't rememeber right now. Also remember that at idle, the TPS will reflect 0%. 1 ms of fuelling at idle (0% column) is way too little, start off by increasing the 0% column to at least 2 ms, and then adjust from there. You can set the startup prime to about 1.8 ms as well. See how that goes.
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Post by Zuna » Thu Apr 13, 2017 3:56 pm

thanx buddy ill try that
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Re: Dicktator STD assist needed

Post by PapaJo » Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:20 pm

Any update?
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