Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

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Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Sureshan » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:52 pm

Hi guys

Just wanted to know the best cam amd chip for my citirox 1.4i and what power gains to expect? I currently have a bmc flatbed filter and a 50mm 4-1 primaforce branch and exhaust.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by chucker02 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:10 pm

268 cam and uni-chip, not sure on gains bit I think its about 4-5kw
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by VW 'John Deere' TDI » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:38 am

chucker02 wrote:268 cam and uni-chip, not sure on gains bit I think its about 4-5kw
So little! That sounds like a complete waste of time. :fear:
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Unobeat » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:42 am

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chucker02 wrote:268 cam and uni-chip, not sure on gains bit I think its about 4-5kw
So little! That sounds like a complete waste of time. :fear:

unfortunately it is not much gain.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by SemiColon » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:46 am

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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by zain_c » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:33 am

I ran a 272 and UniQ in my 1.4i before i went 2.0 8v...made 78kw down here in CT.

Also had branch and 50mm Powerflow.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Sureshan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:59 am

Thanks guys, and idea of how much this cam and chip would cost?
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by SemiColon » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:04 am

Sureshan wrote:Thanks guys, and idea of how much this cam and chip would cost?
New an estas cam is about R1700, chip and dyno another R3k I guess.

You can buy used and save about 50% on that, maybe a bit more.

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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Sureshan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:07 am

Thanks , last question , will the cam damage my engine ?
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by chucker02 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:11 am

No it wont
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Sureshan » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:18 am

Thanks , will keep u guys updated
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Scatman » Fri Feb 13, 2015 1:00 pm

Get your head flowed and port-matched - for me it made the same performance difference as a 268 cam and remap. Now imagine having the benefits of a decent head flow and port job, AND a cam and remap. Happy times.
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Post by Unobeat » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:52 pm

Scatman wrote:Get your head flowed and port-matched - for me it made the same performance difference as a 268 cam and remap. Now imagine having the benefits of a decent head flow and port job, AND a cam and remap. Happy times.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Evilsheepclone47 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:59 pm

This debate of mods on a 1.4i citi has always been around. I never done it to mine, just the exhaust and branch and I was happy.

A good point that always gets made is that the total cost of these minor upgrades should be compared to the cost of fitting a stock 2liter motor.

There's a big difference in power gains between the 2. Do a search for 2 liter conversions on the forum. These tons of information about it here as well as okes that have done it.

Thought I would through that spanner in there.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by JunoM » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:00 pm

Just put in a 276 estas cam and don't even remap it, the standard computer box will read the cam and compensate accordingly. Unichip is waste of time imo . You rather put a 2.0 computer box instead of the unichip. On the Intake side u can install the short 2.0 throttle body, and you can do an airbox mod. You can't expect a lot of power gain from a 1.4 but any small mod you do can be felt on these cars
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Post by chucker02 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:12 pm

It will overfuel like a mofo with a 2.0 computer box. Please dont do this
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Post by THANAS » Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:40 pm

Some of these suggestions scare me.

If you want to keep the original engine, put in the 272 cam and get some place to install the uniQ chip and tune it as well. It's a waste of money imo, but then again almost all modding is a waste of money and time. The biggest bonus is the cammed sound to be honest.
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Post by Life160 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:48 pm

Save up and go 2.0 8v... Gains will be minimal with the 1.4i.
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Post by missioner » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:19 am

I'm with the guys that recommend the transplant. There ain't no replacement for displacement. Spending money on the 1.4 is a waste of time as it hasn't proven itself as a good base for decent power gains. I followed a build of a guy who turboed his 1.4 Velocity. The moment he got it all working the motor threw a rod and broke. He's dropped in a 2.0l and got done with it.
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Post by dbndude » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:59 am

Life160 wrote:Save up and go 2.0 8v... Gains will be minimal with the 1.4i.
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Post by Solo786 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:25 am

JunoM wrote:Just put in a 276 estas cam and don't even remap it, the standard computer box will read the cam and compensate accordingly. Unichip is waste of time imo . You rather put a 2.0 computer box instead of the unichip. On the Intake side u can install the short 2.0 throttle body, and you can do an airbox mod. You can't expect a lot of power gain from a 1.4 but any small mod you do can be felt on these cars
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Also, while fitting a 2.0 is a great bang for buck option, fitting a 268 + uniq to a 1.4i that already has a branch & exhaust, with a proper tune can gain anywhere from 12-15kw.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by Scatman » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:41 am

Some may call me an idiot, but I took my 2.0 out and re-fitted the lively 1.4i motor as I enjoyed the rev-happy nature of the engine and it was more in line with what I wanted out of the car. A worked 1.4i may not be the fastest etc, but to me that didn't matter, the 1.4i 8v motor is a little gem of a thing because it's almost square.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by SemiColon » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:21 am

Scatman wrote:Some may call me an idiot, but I took my 2.0 out and re-fitted the lively 1.4i motor as I enjoyed the rev-happy nature of the engine and it was more in line with what I wanted out of the car. A worked 1.4i may not be the fastest etc, but to me that didn't matter, the 1.4i 8v motor is a little gem of a thing because it's almost square.
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Re: Cam and chip on a citirox 1.4i

Post by ahmedy » Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:30 pm

What would be the ideal exhaust size to use? Iv heard of 50mil and I have heard from others whom say 48mil is correct? Also should this be the size from the front to back or is the size differant at any section?
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