Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

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Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by Wheelwore » Mon Dec 01, 2014 1:36 pm

Has anyone tried this..to avoid damaging the sump on static cars
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Re: Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by AlexTDi » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:23 pm

Wheelwore wrote:Has anyone tried this..to avoid damaging the sump on static cars
Negative, unless finding an import which is near impossible, SHAUN investigated this IIRC for his Jet.

Rather lift the motor higher in the bay with some custom mounts.
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Post by Torker » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:27 pm

Stick with the steel sump, they can handle more abuse than an aluminium sump.
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Post by Wheelwore » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:01 pm

Need sump further away the road..
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Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by Boost » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:09 pm

Just dont have the car so damn low :lol:

That will require a lot more than just the sump. Lifting the engine is limited. You have already pushed your side shafts closer to the chassis legs. But if you come up with a solution please let us know.


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Post by yeo786 » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:16 pm

I think Riaan aka Project 8v aka Throttles has a solution, its on his build thread in the xtreme veedubz website
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Post by Wheelwore » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:38 pm

why we struggle like this in SA
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Re: Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by PoLonY » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:01 pm

Lift motor, c notch, ball joint extensions. Move on with life.

If baller go for dry sump.
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Post by Wheelwore » Mon Dec 01, 2014 4:04 pm

Ball Joint extenders and Tie rod flip kit I had to order from States
C notch - Done
Lift Motor ....Tell me more about this...
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Re: Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by missioner » Mon Dec 01, 2014 10:21 pm

Stock engine and gearbox mounts are off center, toward the top of the bushes. Have custom polyurethane ones made that are closer to the bottom and you should lift about 25mm. Leave the rear mount alone and the drive shaft won't lift very much. The front stabiliser will need some modding to make it fit, but it has lots of movement so it shouldn't take much to get right.
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Post by Wheelwore » Tue Dec 02, 2014 8:46 am

thanks..custom polyurethane -- who can make this
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Post by Psycho8v » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:24 am

Wheelwore wrote:thanks..custom polyurethane -- who can make this
Won't Andre's rubber in CPT be able to help you bud? I know I've read on the forum he makes all sorts of different shore hardness mounts for people, surely he'll be able to help make a custom mount for you?

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Post by Cyle16v » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:39 am

Psycho8v wrote:
Wheelwore wrote:thanks..custom polyurethane -- who can make this
Won't Andre's rubber in CPT be able to help you bud? I know I've read on the forum he makes all sorts of different shore hardness mounts for people, surely he'll be able to help make a custom mount for you?

http://www.andresrubber.com/contact.html
yup he will.
he sells a poly kit for the mk1 for like R700

and you can send in exsiting mounts for him to fill.
best thing I would suggest is get two mounts, send them to Andre have him move the pilot holes for the bolts far down as possible and fill with the poly.

Missioner had suggested this, I am just adding to it
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Post by Torker » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:20 pm

If you are handy enough you can buy the poly as a 2-pack resin and cast your own mounts, using the original metal parts.
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Re: Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by marzbars » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:36 pm

Why not do something like this?

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Post by PoLonY » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:54 pm

marzbars wrote:Why not do something like this?

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Cause that doesn't help much at all
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Post by DCmk3 » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:10 pm

marzbars wrote:Why not do something like this?

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Turning a lowered car into a sparkler when it grinds bumps? :troll:

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Re: Shorter Sump for Citi Golf

Post by missioner » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:58 pm

Oh use the old sump from the 1.3 citi or 1.6 golf 2 it's vee shaped and will give a little more clearance
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