Adaptors please help PCD change

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:36 am

Hi guys need help on this wanting to know do i need two sets of adaptors to change my PCD from 4x100 to 5x114 or wat?

thanks in advance

User avatar
missioner
Captain
Posts: 2081
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '87 MK1 Golf Citi
Location: weenen
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby missioner » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:58 am

Get the hubs drilled.

Using 5x114 rims you have to be very careful selecting rims with the right offset. Remember that word. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the lip measured across the width of the rim not the spokes.

What I'm getting at is adapters will significantly reduce the offset of your new rims and negatively affect the handling, tyre to fender clearance, wheel bearing lifespan and a whole lot of other suspension and steering problems.

Have the hubs and discs drilled it will cost less than the adapters and is a safer solution than adapters
'87 Golf 1 Olde Skewl OEM+

User avatar
PoLonY
Gimme sausage. The thicker the better!
Posts: 18211
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:32 pm
Car Model: Volvo
Membership No: 1997
Location: Modderfontein
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby PoLonY » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:08 am

missioner wrote:Get the hubs drilled.

Using 5x114 rims you have to be very careful selecting rims with the right offset. Remember that word. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the lip measured across the width of the rim not the spokes.

What I'm getting at is adapters will significantly reduce the offset of your new rims and negatively affect the handling, tyre to fender clearance, wheel bearing lifespan and a whole lot of other suspension and steering problems.

Have the hubs and discs drilled it will cost less than the adapters and is a safer solution than adapters


Good luck having enough meat on the hub to redrill to 5x114.3 from 4x100 :thumbup:

User avatar
missioner
Captain
Posts: 2081
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '87 MK1 Golf Citi
Location: weenen
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby missioner » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:20 am

PoLonY wrote:
missioner wrote:Get the hubs drilled.

Using 5x114 rims you have to be very careful selecting rims with the right offset. Remember that word. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the lip measured across the width of the rim not the spokes.

What I'm getting at is adapters will significantly reduce the offset of your new rims and negatively affect the handling, tyre to fender clearance, wheel bearing lifespan and a whole lot of other suspension and steering problems.

Have the hubs and discs drilled it will cost less than the adapters and is a safer solution than adapters


Good luck having enough meat on the hub to redrill to 5x114.3 from 4x100

So what do you suggest then?

If it was me I wouldn't even try fitting BMW rims to my golf. Leave that to the ricers
'87 Golf 1 Olde Skewl OEM+

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:22 am

dude it cant be drilled i must make adaptors if it was to 5x100 pcd i think you can drill the hubs but not 5x114 bud
i think i just started hating the word offset.

User avatar
PoLonY
Gimme sausage. The thicker the better!
Posts: 18211
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:32 pm
Car Model: Volvo
Membership No: 1997
Location: Modderfontein
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby PoLonY » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:29 am

missioner wrote:
PoLonY wrote:
missioner wrote:Get the hubs drilled.

Using 5x114 rims you have to be very careful selecting rims with the right offset. Remember that word. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the lip measured across the width of the rim not the spokes.

What I'm getting at is adapters will significantly reduce the offset of your new rims and negatively affect the handling, tyre to fender clearance, wheel bearing lifespan and a whole lot of other suspension and steering problems.

Have the hubs and discs drilled it will cost less than the adapters and is a safer solution than adapters


Good luck having enough meat on the hub to redrill to 5x114.3 from 4x100

So what do you suggest then?

If it was me I wouldn't even try fitting BMW rims to my golf. Leave that to the ricers


adapters, they perfectly safe and work well.

Yes offset needs to be checked but that's a minor issue imo, easily checked.

Most adapters will be around 20mm thck, so look at the offset of the wheel you want and add 20mm of poke to your calcs.

And 5x114.3 is Japanese spec PCD, not BMW, BMW is 5x120.

Lol at ricer comment

User avatar
missioner
Captain
Posts: 2081
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '87 MK1 Golf Citi
Location: weenen
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby missioner » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:31 am

PoLonY wrote:
missioner wrote:
PoLonY wrote:
missioner wrote:Get the hubs drilled.

Using 5x114 rims you have to be very careful selecting rims with the right offset. Remember that word. Offset is the distance from the center of the rim to the lip measured across the width of the rim not the spokes.

What I'm getting at is adapters will significantly reduce the offset of your new rims and negatively affect the handling, tyre to fender clearance, wheel bearing lifespan and a whole lot of other suspension and steering problems.

Have the hubs and discs drilled it will cost less than the adapters and is a safer solution than adapters


Good luck having enough meat on the hub to redrill to 5x114.3 from 4x100

So what do you suggest then?

If it was me I wouldn't even try fitting BMW rims to my golf. Leave that to the ricers


adapters, they perfectly safe and work well.

Yes offset needs to be checked but that's a minor issue imo, easily checked.

Most adapters will be around 20mm thck, so look at the offset of the wheel you want and add 20mm of poke to your calcs.

And 5x114.3 is Japanese spec PCD, not BMW, BMW is 5x120.

Lol at ricer comment

We all learn every day.

OP what car are these jap ricer rims going onto?
'87 Golf 1 Olde Skewl OEM+

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:36 am

Image
These are the wheels and dont think they jap wheels at all

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:36 am

Mk2 golf bud

User avatar
missioner
Captain
Posts: 2081
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '87 MK1 Golf Citi
Location: weenen
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby missioner » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:41 am

Alfa romeo?

Ok

Ricer comment retracted.
'87 Golf 1 Olde Skewl OEM+

User avatar
missioner
Captain
Posts: 2081
Joined: Wed Dec 25, 2013 12:46 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '87 MK1 Golf Citi
Location: weenen
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby missioner » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:42 am

Was the alfa front or rear wheel drive?

This is important because it determines the offset you are working with.
'87 Golf 1 Olde Skewl OEM+

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:45 am

I think its a rear wheel drive bud

mags to fit Alfa 6 sedan is that a RWD

User avatar
PoLonY
Gimme sausage. The thicker the better!
Posts: 18211
Joined: Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:32 pm
Car Model: Volvo
Membership No: 1997
Location: Modderfontein
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby PoLonY » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:59 am

missioner wrote:Was the alfa front or rear wheel drive?

This is important because it determines the offset you are working with.


The offset should be stamped on the back of the spokes along with PCD and width etc.

Those look like Compomotives, the alfa part is just a centre cap.

User avatar
Kyle
VWCSA Member
Posts: 9426
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:35 pm
Car Make: Porsche
Car Model: Adidas TYP 64
Membership No: 1922
Location: Durban
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby Kyle » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:00 am

In for lolz
Image
Current:
'06 Impreza 2.0R Wagon
'03 S3 8L

Ex:
'11 A3 1.6TDi
'70 VW Beetle 1600 Twin Port
'00 A4 2.4 V6,
'09 Ibiza Cupra 1.8T,
2013 Vivo Gran Turismo,
E36 M3 Coupe,
E46 320i Individual MSport,
'98 Civic V Tec,
E36 318is Msport,
E30 318i Coupe,
GOLF MK1 GT


Why make things easy for yourself when you can make them incredibly difficult and complicated.

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:05 am

Kyle wrote:In for lolz

now y do u wanna go and do that

User avatar
Saiendra
Criminal Troll.
Posts: 1874
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:21 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Golf VI 2.0T ED35
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby Saiendra » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:06 am

Drill hubs to 5x100 PCD, Fit 5x100 to 5X114.3 PCD Adapters made by Deriam Engineering.

Plates will be 30 mm thick if you decide to go with a double adapter and may leave the off-set way too aggressive.
(5x100 -> 5x114.3 will be 20 mm) (Subtract 20 mm from the current off-set on your wheels to get the new off-set)

Contact people:

Sharon - 0824454769 (Deriam Engineering for Adapters)
Zubair - 0832656668 (Wheels and More to re-drill hubs to 5x100 PCD)

Spacers will cost around R1300 - R1500 depending on width etc...
On car PCD drilling will cost you around R700.
Daily - Gold-Metallic / 1985 Golf II CSL.
Racekor - United Grey / 2012 Golf VI GTI 2.0 TFSI ED35.

User avatar
dub167
Cadet
Posts: 284
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 11:42 pm
Car Make: vw
Car Model: mk2 GTI
Location: port elizabeth
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby dub167 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:08 am

Thanks alot Saiendra will go that route by drilling the hubs

User avatar
Saiendra
Criminal Troll.
Posts: 1874
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 11:21 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Golf VI 2.0T ED35
Location: Gauteng, South Africa
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby Saiendra » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:17 am

Mod cars they said... It will be fun they said...
Daily - Gold-Metallic / 1985 Golf II CSL.
Racekor - United Grey / 2012 Golf VI GTI 2.0 TFSI ED35.

User avatar
Aslam_MK4
SO FLUFFY, WE ALL GONNA DIE!
Posts: 1413
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2009 11:35 am
Membership No: 1824
Location: roshnee/vereeniging
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby Aslam_MK4 » Wed Nov 05, 2014 9:42 am

Yay im a ricer

Got x5 wheels on my mk4

I have 25mm adaptors front
15mm adaptors rear
Bagged mk4 2dr
Tazo’s garage
Pm for all your air installs,sound,revo software,coilovers etc


"Ride or die

User avatar
Kyle
VWCSA Member
Posts: 9426
Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:35 pm
Car Make: Porsche
Car Model: Adidas TYP 64
Membership No: 1922
Location: Durban
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby Kyle » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:43 am

aslam325 wrote:Yay im a ricer

Got x5 wheels on my mk4

I have 25mm adaptors front
15mm adaptors rear


We still love you :hug:
Image
Current:
'06 Impreza 2.0R Wagon
'03 S3 8L

Ex:
'11 A3 1.6TDi
'70 VW Beetle 1600 Twin Port
'00 A4 2.4 V6,
'09 Ibiza Cupra 1.8T,
2013 Vivo Gran Turismo,
E36 M3 Coupe,
E46 320i Individual MSport,
'98 Civic V Tec,
E36 318is Msport,
E30 318i Coupe,
GOLF MK1 GT


Why make things easy for yourself when you can make them incredibly difficult and complicated.

THE GAME
Wheel Hoarder
Posts: 1987
Joined: Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:55 pm
Car Make: VW / BMW
Car Model: Golf VR6
Location: PTA
Contact:

Re: Adaptors please help PCD change

Postby THE GAME » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:32 am

Im also doing some calculations for my new wheels
& it seems im gonna go via Deriam engineers

need 25mm adaptors 5x 100 to 5x 112,
"HaTe iT oR LoVe It"

2001 E39 M5 Antracite
1997 Golf VR6 White
1992 Silver 325i Silver
1991 E30 318i coupe Red

Ex
2011 BMW 320d Msport
2004 323 Mazda (Daily)
Golf 5 GTI DSG United Grey
2005 318i E46 Individual
2001 Polo Playa 1.6
200i 16v Dohc Mazda
2004 318i E46 Special Edition
2002 Polo Playa 1.6s


Image

Return to “General Tech Discussions”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 46 guests