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Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby LawTDI » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:42 am

Hi guys have any of you tried the Philip bulbs I need advice want to get lights done on my car not sure what to do thanks

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby Unobeat » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:06 am

I think they awesome light bulbs bud, for what car?
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby StealthGTi » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:13 am

Hi,

I had both in my car and I have to say that i was more impressed with the Philips globes than with the HID kits.
The Philips globes are 5000k and the HID's were 6000k plus in the Halogen housing I personally feel that the distance of the light on the road were better with the globes than with the HID's.

That's my opinion and there will be guys disagreeing with me, but I saw better at night with the globes.
Plus they look freekin awesome. Love the pure white.

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby LawTDI » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:28 am

hi its for a polo tdi wanna get the headlight and the spot light bulbs do u guys know a estimate price?

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby mk2-phreak » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:31 am

Crystal Vision may be a whiter looking light but in terms of actual light output Nightbreakers still beat them.

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby ace_the_house_cat » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:33 am

Don't do HID unless you do projectors IMO. It just blinds everyone else on the road.

The Diamond Vision are good globes though. A little brighter and whiter than OEM globes.

For fogs - find out the size and use LED globes.
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby ace_the_house_cat » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:36 am

StealthGTi wrote:Hi,

I had both in my car and I have to say that i was more impressed with the Philips globes than with the HID kits.
The Philips globes are 5000k and the HID's were 6000k plus in the Halogen housing I personally feel that the distance of the light on the road were better with the globes than with the HID's.

That's my opinion and there will be guys disagreeing with me, but I saw better at night with the globes.
Plus they look freekin awesome. Love the pure white.


Remember that the 6000k HID kit has a blue tinge to it. Apparently the "closest to OEM Xenon" look are the 4300k HID globes. The higher the "K"or Kelvin rating, the bluer the light gets.

I have a 4300k kit (thanks Jabsport), I will fit them as soon as I get my projectors done and report back.
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby ChefDJ » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:39 am

I had HID's fitted and they worked well for a few months, but then faded and I couldn't see to save my life. I ripped them out and replaced them with Phillips Xtreme Vision. I'm not 100% happy but they do the job.

How does Xtreme vision differ from the Crystal Vision and Diamond Vision?

And the Nightbreakers?

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby LawTDI » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:10 am

Ok so what should I go for I want that white effect from the bulb but also want to be able to see at night?

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby StealthGTi » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:21 am

The Diamond Vision is pure 5000K and is also the only Globe they have that is higher than 4300K.

They claim the Extreme vision has better light output on the road than the others they have to offer, but I was looking for close to Xenon light effect as possible, thus choosing the Diamond Vision.
It wasn't about the distance but more about the look for me.

They are expensive though, But I got my H7 Main beam and HB4-9006 for spots at about R 300 a set. They are usually about R 350 to R 380 a set.

To me it was worth it for sure.... Don't like the night breakers, had them and they have too much of a yellow output vs the Diamond vision.

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby Kavi4GP » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:31 am

Nightbreakers also have a tendency to fail more often , replaced 3 sets on the Cerato 2011 and twice on the Focus Sport 2013 both newer vehicles with good damping designs. Stick to Philips hard to find , worth the costs , run them on trucks and with the added vibrations still had a set that did 250000+ km (Constant use as DRL)
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby StealthGTi » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:51 am

I Have to agree, Any osram globe seems to last about 6 months or so, duno why...

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby LawTDI » Thu Sep 04, 2014 11:54 am

Anyone know where I can get the crystal vision bulbs in Cape town

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Postby SykomantiS » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:02 pm

ace_the_house_cat wrote:Don't do HID unless you do projectors IMO. It just blinds everyone else on the road.

The Diamond Vision are good globes though. A little brighter and whiter than OEM globes.

For fogs - find out the size and use LED globes.

Not quite true. I have a set of 5000K H7R bulbs in my Civic, also on my bike. R-rated bulbs are designed with reflectors in mind and have a cut-off plate on the bulb to ensure you don't blind the oncoming traffic. The Civic has electronic adjustment on the headlights, and on the highest setting only a handful of people have flashed me- I generally turn the lights one notch down just to be on the safe side and have no issues with other road users complaining.
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby ChefDJ » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:03 pm

You can get most of the bulbs from Autozone etc.


The Phillips Xtreme Vision really do shine far, I won't argue. However they aren't very bright on the road. I think I'll try that Diamond Vision next.

A friend of mine who also has an E39 put nightbreakers in his fog lights and I must say it makes a big difference if your headlights aren't that lekker.

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby 4ePikanini » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:21 pm

HID factory lights are superior but putting an HID kit an headlight with reflectors designed for halogen bulbs is a recipe for disaster and a nuisance to oncoming traffic.

If you have halogens from the factory, stick to phillips, osram or bosch halogens.

If you want more light get HID spotlights.

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Postby ace_the_house_cat » Thu Sep 04, 2014 12:37 pm

SykomantiS wrote:
ace_the_house_cat wrote:Don't do HID unless you do projectors IMO. It just blinds everyone else on the road.

The Diamond Vision are good globes though. A little brighter and whiter than OEM globes.

For fogs - find out the size and use LED globes.

Not quite true. I have a set of 5000K H7R bulbs in my Civic, also on my bike. R-rated bulbs are designed with reflectors in mind and have a cut-off plate on the bulb to ensure you don't blind the oncoming traffic. The Civic has electronic adjustment on the headlights, and on the highest setting only a handful of people have flashed me- I generally turn the lights one notch down just to be on the safe side and have no issues with other road users complaining.


Interesting. I had no idea that there were HID bulbs made for protracted headlights.

Sorry for the :hijack: but how are the 5000k bulbs in terms of white, useable light?
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby marzbars » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:19 pm

SO... how about HID's in a Joye Mod light where the reflection was removed or painted black?

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby SykomantiS » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:43 pm

ace_the_house_cat wrote:
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ace_the_house_cat wrote:Don't do HID unless you do projectors IMO. It just blinds everyone else on the road.

The Diamond Vision are good globes though. A little brighter and whiter than OEM globes.

For fogs - find out the size and use LED globes.

Not quite true. I have a set of 5000K H7R bulbs in my Civic, also on my bike. R-rated bulbs are designed with reflectors in mind and have a cut-off plate on the bulb to ensure you don't blind the oncoming traffic. The Civic has electronic adjustment on the headlights, and on the highest setting only a handful of people have flashed me- I generally turn the lights one notch down just to be on the safe side and have no issues with other road users complaining.


Interesting. I had no idea that there were HID bulbs made for protracted headlights.

Sorry for the :hijack: but how are the 5000k bulbs in terms of white, useable light?

Makes the 'standard' 6000K HID kits look like "police-blue" lights in comparison. Exaggeration of course, but this is as white as it gets- as stated dropping lower on the Kelvin scale, the light will start to get a yellowish tint with ~4300K being about the normal colour output of standard halogen bulbs. Prior to fitting the kit I used to drive with fogs on along with the headlights at night to have a nice even spread of light everywhere on the road surface and in front of me. My fog lights are now permanently switched off (which is technically the way it's supposed to be)- this kit provides more than adequate light and I'm very happy with it.
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby mk2-phreak » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:48 pm

StealthGTi wrote:I Have to agree, Any osram globe seems to last about 6 months or so, duno why...

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby LawTDI » Thu Sep 04, 2014 2:29 pm

how are the nightbreaker plus do they give the white effect?

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby ace_the_house_cat » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:02 pm

SykomantiS wrote:
ace_the_house_cat wrote:
SykomantiS wrote:
ace_the_house_cat wrote:Don't do HID unless you do projectors IMO. It just blinds everyone else on the road.

The Diamond Vision are good globes though. A little brighter and whiter than OEM globes.

For fogs - find out the size and use LED globes.

Not quite true. I have a set of 5000K H7R bulbs in my Civic, also on my bike. R-rated bulbs are designed with reflectors in mind and have a cut-off plate on the bulb to ensure you don't blind the oncoming traffic. The Civic has electronic adjustment on the headlights, and on the highest setting only a handful of people have flashed me- I generally turn the lights one notch down just to be on the safe side and have no issues with other road users complaining.


Interesting. I had no idea that there were HID bulbs made for protracted headlights.

Sorry for the :hijack: but how are the 5000k bulbs in terms of white, useable light?

Makes the 'standard' 6000K HID kits look like "police-blue" lights in comparison. Exaggeration of course, but this is as white as it gets- as stated dropping lower on the Kelvin scale, the light will start to get a yellowish tint with ~4300K being about the normal colour output of standard halogen bulbs. Prior to fitting the kit I used to drive with fogs on along with the headlights at night to have a nice even spread of light everywhere on the road surface and in front of me. My fog lights are now permanently switched off (which is technically the way it's supposed to be)- this kit provides more than adequate light and I'm very happy with it.


After extensive research, I bought a 4300k kit (to be installed) because I've heard that its the closest to the OEM xenon look. I am very interested to see what the 5000k looks like. I will do a comparison with the standard halogen bulb and the HID 4300k bulb when I install them.

I agree with you about the fogs, they should be switched off and used in extreme circumstances.

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby SykomantiS » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:11 pm

Will try but I suck at pics.
I always had it that 4300K was like oem halogen. Might be oem xenon, who knows. From the charts though it looks rather yellowish to me.

I work in Midrand at Vodaworld if you ever want to come see what the kit looks like, I'd be happy to show you.
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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby Cafu » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:07 am

Hi guys.....which bulbs do i use for my Golf MK6 TSI fog lights (not GTI).....i want to buy the phillips diamond vision

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Re: Philip crystal vision bulbs VS HID kits

Postby SykomantiS » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:17 am

Normally fog lights use H11 bulbs- your owners manual should confirm this.
Edit: I'd check if I were you rather, quick search shows it might not be H11 but HB4.
Rather get someone else to confirm.
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