Dicktator 60-2 Help
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Dicktator 60-2 Help
Hi guys,
I need some assistance with my unit. I replaced my Dicktator Standard unit on my Golf two weeks ago and went with the following:
-60.2 Unit
-2.0 ADY with Crank angle Sensor
-Golf Four Pin coil pack
-New GW Crank Angle sensor (magnetic)
The issue I am having is that after hooking up everything, the unit is not picking up timing. The lead wire going to crank angle sensor(thick red one) has blue/white and shield(Gnd), I wired up as (pin1 blue,pin2 white,pin3 shield/gnd) onto the three pin GW unit. The unit has been sent to Dictator for testing and has been given a clean bill of health.
Could the harness or magnetic pickup be causing the issue?
Thanks
I need some assistance with my unit. I replaced my Dicktator Standard unit on my Golf two weeks ago and went with the following:
-60.2 Unit
-2.0 ADY with Crank angle Sensor
-Golf Four Pin coil pack
-New GW Crank Angle sensor (magnetic)
The issue I am having is that after hooking up everything, the unit is not picking up timing. The lead wire going to crank angle sensor(thick red one) has blue/white and shield(Gnd), I wired up as (pin1 blue,pin2 white,pin3 shield/gnd) onto the three pin GW unit. The unit has been sent to Dictator for testing and has been given a clean bill of health.
Could the harness or magnetic pickup be causing the issue?
Thanks
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Doesnt it need the hall type sensor instead of the magnetic one?
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2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Yip very difficult to distinguish between the two types of senders, you might have the wrong sender in there. I normally check it with a multimeter - if you get a resistance reading between pin 1 and 3 it's a Hall type sender and if you get a reading between pin 1 and 2 it's magnetic. Default for Dicktator 60-2 is Hall, you only get magnetic if you specify you want it...chucker02 wrote:Doesnt it need the hall type sensor instead of the magnetic one?
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Sensor needed from GW is part number 10703. Hooked one of these up to Dictator 60-2, checked on the laptop if I get engine rpm reading while cranking and voila. Working. Shout if you don't come right with the wiring, can double check mine.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Torker wrote:Yip very difficult to distinguish between the two types of senders, you might have the wrong sender in there. I normally check it with a multimeter - if you get a resistance reading between pin 1 and 3 it's a Hall type sender and if you get a reading between pin 1 and 2 it's magnetic. Default for Dicktator 60-2 is Hall, you only get magnetic if you specify you want it...chucker02 wrote:Doesnt it need the hall type sensor instead of the magnetic one?
Eish I was not aware of that(i can kick myself)...will make a turn to GW tomorrow and ask for the hall type.
thanks Torker
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
thanks for the feedback guys!
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
If this helps,
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Pieta wrote:If this helps,
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
thanks boet, will give it a try tomorrow.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
No probs, if you worry about the wiring, let me know can take a pic of how mine is wired up, Torker assisted me with the wiring.BADBOY wrote:Pieta wrote:If this helps,
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
thanks boet, will give it a try tomorrow.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Read through that post again just now - was still running the 8V in the GT at that stage, how time flies...Pieta wrote:No probs, if you worry about the wiring, let me know can take a pic of how mine is wired up, Torker assisted me with the wiring.BADBOY wrote:Pieta wrote:If this helps,
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
thanks boet, will give it a try tomorrow.
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VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Yeah since then, you set the benchmark with the 16v, made all of us jealous and I am broke financially. LOLTorker wrote:Read through that post again just now - was still running the 8V in the GT at that stage, how time flies...Pieta wrote:No probs, if you worry about the wiring, let me know can take a pic of how mine is wired up, Torker assisted me with the wiring.BADBOY wrote:Pieta wrote:If this helps,
Been there. Read through the post as linked below, that sensor gets discussed. Use it, don't use it.
http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 2&t=161968
thanks boet, will give it a try tomorrow.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Hi, gave goldwagen a call they claim part number is incorrect.Pieta wrote:Sensor needed from GW is part number 10703. Hooked one of these up to Dictator 60-2, checked on the laptop if I get engine rpm reading while cranking and voila. Working. Shout if you don't come right with the wiring, can double check mine.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Which Goldwagen? Phone Wikus or Ashley at Goldwagen Delarey. Got mine from there and I checked the invoice last night.BADBOY wrote:Hi, gave goldwagen a call they claim part number is incorrect.Pieta wrote:Sensor needed from GW is part number 10703. Hooked one of these up to Dictator 60-2, checked on the laptop if I get engine rpm reading while cranking and voila. Working. Shout if you don't come right with the wiring, can double check mine.
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- 98 Polo 6N 2.0 8v
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Pieta wrote:Which Goldwagen? Phone Wikus or Ashley at Goldwagen Delarey. Got mine from there and I checked the invoice last night.BADBOY wrote:Hi, gave goldwagen a call they claim part number is incorrect.Pieta wrote:Sensor needed from GW is part number 10703. Hooked one of these up to Dictator 60-2, checked on the laptop if I get engine rpm reading while cranking and voila. Working. Shout if you don't come right with the wiring, can double check mine.
I owe you guys a drink. Gave them a call all sorted, will collect tonight from Ashley.
thanks once again.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Does dictator only work with hall units? I'm running a single magnetic pickup from a VR6 in my ADY with no hassles. On spitronics though.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Dicktator works on magnetic aswell it just needs to be changed in the box
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More info pleasetaz0 wrote:Dicktator works on magnetic aswell it just needs to be changed in the box
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Mine worked on that magnetic sensor from the beginning. I fired up the ABF yesterday, worked 100%.CitiCitiBangBang wrote:Does dictator only work with hall units? I'm running a single magnetic pickup from a VR6 in my ADY with no hassles. On spitronics though.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
You have to know what (60-2) box you've got and use the right sensor...Pieta wrote:Mine worked on that magnetic sensor from the beginning. I fired up the ABF yesterday, worked 100%.CitiCitiBangBang wrote:Does dictator only work with hall units? I'm running a single magnetic pickup from a VR6 in my ADY with no hassles. On spitronics though.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Then I might have been lucky!Torker wrote:You have to know what (60-2) box you've got and use the right sensor...Pieta wrote:Mine worked on that magnetic sensor from the beginning. I fired up the ABF yesterday, worked 100%.CitiCitiBangBang wrote:Does dictator only work with hall units? I'm running a single magnetic pickup from a VR6 in my ADY with no hassles. On spitronics though.
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Hi guys-I am still battling, no RPM even with the new sensor. PN 10703. The sensor is magnetic!(got stuck to the body while I was changing it) Wired as per diagram....no joy
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Swap the Pos and trigger wires around and try again. Is your laptop connecting to the Dicktator? (Bar going green)BADBOY wrote:Hi guys-I am still battling, no RPM even with the new sensor. PN 10703. The sensor is magnetic!(got stuck to the body while I was changing it) Wired as per diagram....no joy
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VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
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Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
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Re: Dicktator 60-2 Help
Dude you are are legend! I got RPM. Thanks
On the main setup what settings do i use.
Spark mode-wasted spark home position
Dwell-constant duty percentage or charge
Trigger angle?
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On the main setup what settings do i use.
Spark mode-wasted spark home position
Dwell-constant duty percentage or charge
Trigger angle?
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PM me your e-mail address so that I can send you the Dicktator write-up...BADBOY wrote:Dude you are are legend! I got RPM. Thanks
On the main setup what settings do i use.
Spark mode-wasted spark home position
Dwell-constant duty percentage or charge
Trigger angle?
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Are you running wasted spark?
I'll send you the same maps I sent to Pieta, his ABF started up right away on one of them.
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VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
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Yes wasted spark, using a golf 4 coill. 4 pin.
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