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vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:42 am

Hi all. Ok so I have converted my wife's citi velo from drums to disks at the rear.
So I had to cut a small section away from the axel to accommodate one of the caliper mounting bolts.

But what I wanted to find out what do you do with the hand brake cable. There is no way I will be able to fit the cable and if I do fit it the angle will be way to much and it will snap the cable.

I used golf 2 gti stub axels and disks and calipers.

I did the conversion because I got all the parts for the same price as new drums and shoes for the car.
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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby Donavan » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:45 am

U use mk2 cables iirc

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby Howie-WP » Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:51 am

DJLSchoemm wrote:Hi all. Ok so I have converted my wife's citi velo from drums to disks at the rear.
So I hade to cut a small peace away from the axel to accommodate one of the caliper mounting bolts.

But what I wanted to find out what do you do with the hand brake cable. There is no why I will be able to fit the cable and if I do fit it the angel will be why to much and it will brake the cable.


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DJLSchoemm wrote:I did the conversion because I got all the parts for the same price as new drums and shoes for the car.


Drums would be a straight fit, having parts at same price and now you need to mod to make it work.

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:00 pm

hehe sorry for the spelling this auto correct is driving me crazy!!! :crazy:

I know it would have been a straight fit. But I did the conversion so would just like to know must I cut the axel or something to get the cables to work.

Yes you use Jetta 2 cables.

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby nd_s » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:35 pm

And set the brake bias valve, else the rear will lock up..

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:52 pm

The velo has a valve at the master cylinder that reduces brake force at the back.

I tested it and the front wheels lock up but not the rears.

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Postby Torker » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:27 pm

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby Torker » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:33 pm

1st off, did you fit the calipers in the right postion? It is possible to fit them in the wrong postion if you swap the stub axles around. What handbrake cables are you using? The correct ones is Jumbo GTi (Goldwagen stock code A159). I used the existing handbrake cable guides on the rear axle, the cables goes into the calipers from the bottom and everything lines up 100%

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Nov 29, 2013 1:43 pm

My calipers sit exactly like yours.

I used the cables from a Jetta 2 with disk brakes at the back but the calipers and stub axels came from a Golf 2 GTI.

I also had to cut a section from the rear axel to get the one bolt that holds the caliper in place to fit.

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Postby 2226cc » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:39 pm

Post pics on the setup so people can get a clear idea of how you've done it and why cutting was needed.

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:29 am

Ok the cable is connected but when I pull the handbrake up the car will still move?

So I have no idea what is going on with the thing!!

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby Tander » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:33 am

DJLSchoemm wrote:Ok the cable is connected but when I pull the handbrake up the car will still move?

So I have no idea what is going on with the thing!!



Like above posted asked - post pictures of what you have done so we can clearly see.

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Postby 2226cc » Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:35 am

The fact you had to cut something away doesn't bode well. Haven't heard of others who've done this conversion having to cut away stuff.

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Postby Baldwin02002 » Thu Dec 05, 2013 12:47 pm

Hi, i did mine early this year. I fitted Jetta 2 second generation cables as the first generation ones were shorter. I bought them from GW.
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Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:39 pm

Ok. Here is a photo.
I use Jetta 2 cables.

This is the problem I am having.
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Postby THANAS » Fri Dec 06, 2013 1:58 pm

DJLSchoemm wrote:Ok. Here is a photo.
I use Jetta 2 cables.

This is the problem I am having.
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Postby Torker » Fri Dec 06, 2013 2:15 pm

I'll take a pic of my setup this weekend so that we can compare it, my cable definitely doesn't have that kink...
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Postby DJLSchoemm » Fri Dec 06, 2013 3:19 pm

Thanks.

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Postby Torker » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:58 am

DJLSchoemm wrote:Thanks.


I forgot about those pics, will try to get some tomorrow when changing my rear wheel bearings...
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Postby Taz0 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:11 am

How do you guys keep it from locking up?
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Postby DJLSchoemm » Tue Dec 10, 2013 9:44 am

On the Velociti and probably all the newer golf 1 models there are an valve at the front on the master cylinder before it goes to the rear. Will take a pic. That valve reduces braking force to the rear.

Works well the front locks up I could not get the rears to lock up yet.

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Postby Torker » Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:07 pm

DJLSchoemm wrote:On the Velociti and probably all the newer golf 1 models there are an valve at the front on the master cylinder before it goes to the rear. Will take a pic. That valve reduces braking force to the rear.

Works well the front locks up I could not get the rears to lock up yet.


I never fitted a bias on my Velo, never needed it - it had the same brakes as my GT.

Pics as promised - no kink in the cable:

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No need to cut anything to get the brakes to fit:

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Re: vw golf 1 Hand brake cable and disks.

Postby DJLSchoemm » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:39 am

I have no idea why my setup looks different. The stub axel can only go on one way ells the holes don't line up. I will have a look over the weekend and see if I can sort this out.

Thanks for the photos.

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Postby Taz0 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:02 am

This is one mod I'll be doing when my drums are worn out
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