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Sound Deadening Material

Postby marzbars » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Where can I get and how much should I look at spending also how much would you need for a MK1 floor and doors?.
I know Dynamat is prob the best but I want something budget and still decent.

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Postby Killerwatt » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:02 pm

Look at the reference audio one. Its what im using and is decent considering the price.

If you wana spend abit more then look at stp, second skin and dynamat. Marlin can prob tell you how much is needed.
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Postby EX-DOHCTOR » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:05 pm

I got a quote of R7500 to do a full cabin in my 2 door. Floor, firewall, boot, wheel roof and doors. They were even going to do inside the wheel arches.
Reckoned it would add an additional 50kg's to the overall weight of the car. Can't remember the name of the product now. Will find out for you.

Think it was like 6 boxes worth of this stuff.
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Postby Wheelwore » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:07 pm

For my Velociti top to bottom and all sides...basically full STP deadening will set you back 30 sheets....I used 50 as I was doubling up on the roof area and the boot area where the golf is most weak in musical terms

We did my Brothers golf with SS sound deadening as he didnt see the need to waste money on expensive stuff even though I warned him about the consequences....He used 30 sheets as well...dead on

Budget I say...second skin...more budget targa or ss..which wont do the same job as second skin but thats a different topic all together...

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Postby Wheelwore » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:09 pm

EX-DOHCTOR wrote:I got a quote of R7500 to do a full cabin in my 2 door. Floor, firewall, boot, wheel roof and doors. They were even going to do inside the wheel arches. Reckoned it would add an additional 50kg's to the overall weight of the car. Can't remember the name of the product now. Will find out for you.

Think it was like 6 boxes worth of this stuff.



Inside as in the under the wheel arch...will be a waste of money ... :fear:
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Postby EX-DOHCTOR » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:27 pm

Yup, inside the wheel arches - of the boot :wink:
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Postby Torker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 2:39 pm

I bought a bulk pack Damplifier Pro (20 sheets) for R1500, weighs about 11 kilograms...
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Postby Wheelwore » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:50 pm

EX-DOHCTOR wrote:Yup, inside the wheel arches - of the boot :wink:


The guy that told you this knows sweet blowall.....
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Postby Donnie Darko » Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:54 pm

Use that stuff from builders that Shaun used in the Audi. Cheap and looks like it works. Correct me if i am worng Shaun?



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Postby Wheelwore » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:11 pm

ohhhhh he eh
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Re: Sound Deadening Material

Postby Wheelwore » Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:12 pm

please read this thread...

http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/
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Postby EX-DOHCTOR » Wed Jun 05, 2013 5:02 pm

Wheelwore wrote:The guy that told you this knows sweet blowall.....


Seem like he read your link though... :hi:

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Postby Killerwatt » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:10 pm

Dohc, your post sounded like he did on the wheel side of the wheel wells, ie outside the car.

The stuff from builders is roof sealer not deadener, use it as such. Also not everything needs deadening over it, only parts that resonate.

Mars, what are you trying to accomplish? Im guessing a quieter car? Look into something like luxury liner pro, kak expensive though. Using deadener as soundproofing is like buying an uno to tow a caravan. It may work but its not whats it was made to do.
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Postby katotter » Wed Jun 05, 2013 6:32 pm

Killer, what is the difference between roof sealant and the proper stuff?

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Postby Barney » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:55 pm

Noob question... can this stuff be used to lessen road noise and so forth

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Postby katotter » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:29 pm

Barney1212 wrote:Noob question... can this stuff be used to lessen road noise and so forth

Is road noise a sound? Yes it will....

Its also the stuff you will find stuck underneath your kitchen zink unit to less the tin sound.

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Postby Killerwatt » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:32 am

Roof sealent is just a thin layer of bitumen stuck to a thin layer of aluminium foil. While it does dampen resonance slightly it is nowhere near as effective as sound deadener which has much thicker foil and a butyle rubber layer. Honestly even if you for even 50% coverage with a proper deadener you can get better results than 2 or 3 layers of roof sealer. Trust me i tried it in my boot, and it came out 5 min later...

Deadener will lessen road noise, but that is not its purpose at all. Its meant to kill pannel resonance which is usually excited by a bass note.
The kitchen sink is a good example of something that can resonate and a concrete wall is a good example of something that does not. Just go and hit them with your knuckel and you will know what i mean.

But not everything needs to be deadened. Mdf sub boxes and soft plastic pannels dont need to be deadend because the have a very low tendancy to resonate.
The noise from the sink can linger on for a while after you hit it and will benefit from some deadener. The wall on the other hand will sound no different after even 100 layers of deadener.

Go through that link that marlin posted. Loads of info in there.
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Postby AlexTDi » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:57 am

Heard STP works well and not badly priced

http://www.ananzitech.co.za/Sound+Deadening
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Postby marzbars » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:09 am

Killerwatt wrote:Mars, what are you trying to accomplish? Im guessing a quieter car? Look into something like luxury liner pro, kak expensive though. Using deadener as soundproofing is like buying an uno to tow a caravan. It may work but its not whats it was made to do.


I want to use it both for a quiter ride and for better sound in the Jetta, I am sure it will help with some of the squeeks and rattles as well, getting out of the Audi with the B&O Concert System and air tight door seals the Jetta is very noisy and the speakers and radio setup in there is useless. It does not help that I install the head unit and speakers and the bluetooth kit if I can not hear anyone or thay can not hear me.

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Postby Wheelwore » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:50 am

I was under the impression it was under the arch as you stated....meaning outside the car UNDER the wheel arch....
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Postby Wheelwore » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:52 am

1.9TurboVw wrote:Heard STP works well and not badly priced

http://www.ananzitech.co.za/Sound+Deadening



Yes it does....I used both GOLD and Silver and Bomb on my Vehicle
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Re: Sound Deadening Material

Postby SHAUN » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:52 am

Donnie Darko wrote:Use that stuff from builders that Shaun used in the Audi. Cheap and looks like it works. Correct me if i am worng Shaun?

I have been using it for a good part of 10 years in my installs, although proper deadening does work better, but when on a budget it works.
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Postby Wheelwore » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:55 am

SHAUN wrote:
Donnie Darko wrote:Use that stuff from builders that Shaun used in the Audi. Cheap and looks like it works. Correct me if i am worng Shaun?

I have been using it for a good part of 10 years in my installs, although proper deadening does work better, but when on a budget it works.



Sean when the sun hits it for long periods of time...does the inside of the car give off a smell??
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Postby SHAUN » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:03 pm

Wheelwore wrote:
SHAUN wrote:
Donnie Darko wrote:Use that stuff from builders that Shaun used in the Audi. Cheap and looks like it works. Correct me if i am worng Shaun?

I have been using it for a good part of 10 years in my installs, although proper deadening does work better, but when on a budget it works.



Sean when the sun hits it for long periods of time...does the inside of the car give off a smell??

Holly fok, how did you get to Sean when it clearly says SHAUN?

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Postby Wheelwore » Thu Jun 06, 2013 12:23 pm

never looked...but ya same same
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