8 Valve performance

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8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:38 am

Hey guys
I have been trying to do some research on Flowing and porting my Ady.
I was told there is different stages, how ever can some one tell me what each stage consist of and can someone give contact details for 8 Valve performance.

i googled and picked up a adress in West Street benoni which took me straight into a residential area.
I sent a mail and tried calling but i guess Sarel is busy , therefor i want to pop by his shop.
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Quik-Trix » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:58 am

I don't know how all these "stages" work, but if you going to take all that effort to pull the head out, then why not do it properly once. Its not a part that's easy to swop out if you don't like how its done the first time

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:03 am

Noted
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Psycho8v » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:32 am

Bud, if Sarel doen't answer his phone, he is usually busy on the dyno, and can't hear his phone.

Also, the stages story I don't understand in too much detail, but from what I know is the guys usually go for stage 2, that's a nice flow and your intake and exhaust ports are matched nicely to the manifolds. A stage three from what I can remember Sarel telling me, is cam specific. He does something extra to aid your cam, but that is more for the racing guys. Hope this helps.

Oh, and the adress on google was right, he used to build the cars at his home before he moved to the new shop. :hi:

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby jtm » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:37 am

Sarel's work is top notch. You wont go wrong.
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:45 am

okay thanks guys
anyone have is current work shop adress
2010 Audi A6 - 2.0Tfsi - Hers
2011 E90 Bmw 320d Mpack - Mine
Ex - 2006 Vw Jetta Fsi 2.0 Turbo Dsg
Ex - Jetta 3 - Csx 2.0 - 8Valve - 101whp
Ex - 1992 Honda Dohc
Ex - Toyota Rxi 20V Turbo - 221whp at 0.4bar boost
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Psycho8v » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:01 am

Curryboygp wrote:okay thanks guys
anyone have is current work shop adress


Best guy to ask is Torker. :hi:

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Shygolf » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:04 am

Try him on his mobile - 082 970 5478

His work is tops
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:07 am

Just rings
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Ex - 2006 Vw Jetta Fsi 2.0 Turbo Dsg
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Ex - 1992 Honda Dohc
Ex - Toyota Rxi 20V Turbo - 221whp at 0.4bar boost
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Citi 007 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:09 am

Does stage 3 not include swirled and 3 angle cut valves as well?

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby gman83 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:15 am

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 10:22 am

Thanks Guys
got hold of Gerhard and he gave me the run down.

STAGE 2 he says will work the best
PORTING
SKIMMING
VALVE STEM SEALS
MATCH PORTING AND INTAKE
INJECTOR CHECK UP AS WELL
ESTIMATED R2950.00INCLUD VAT

This is me stripping and taking to them.
+ - 13whp gain

and they are next Door Dada's motorland on Princess.
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2011 E90 Bmw 320d Mpack - Mine
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Ex - 1992 Honda Dohc
Ex - Toyota Rxi 20V Turbo - 221whp at 0.4bar boost
Ex - E90 Bmw 325i
Ex 1997 Civic Vtec
Ex 2007 Run x Trd
Ex 1998 Citi Sonic 1.6

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Torker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 11:59 am

Curryboygp wrote:Thanks Guys
got hold of Gerhard and he gave me the run down.

STAGE 2 he says will work the best
PORTING
SKIMMING
VALVE STEM SEALS
MATCH PORTING AND INTAKE
INJECTOR CHECK UP AS WELL
ESTIMATED R2950.00INCLUD VAT

This is me stripping and taking to them.
+ - 13whp gain

and they are next Door Dada's motorland on Princess.


No the workshop is in Ampthill Ave, between the two Dada's Motorland showrooms and across the road from Goldwagen...
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:03 pm

sorry meant Ampthill
2010 Audi A6 - 2.0Tfsi - Hers
2011 E90 Bmw 320d Mpack - Mine
Ex - 2006 Vw Jetta Fsi 2.0 Turbo Dsg
Ex - Jetta 3 - Csx 2.0 - 8Valve - 101whp
Ex - 1992 Honda Dohc
Ex - Toyota Rxi 20V Turbo - 221whp at 0.4bar boost
Ex - E90 Bmw 325i
Ex 1997 Civic Vtec
Ex 2007 Run x Trd
Ex 1998 Citi Sonic 1.6

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby THE GAME » Wed Jun 05, 2013 12:07 pm

Right next to Dada's

We just dropped off a buddies GT there :wink:

Cant wait to see Sarels magic..... :hurray:
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby gman83 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:14 pm

was that the GT laying flat on its Belly with a roll cage in it? , nice project from the ground up if it is
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby THE GAME » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:30 pm

gman83 wrote:was that the GT laying flat on its Belly with a roll cage in it? , nice project from the ground up if it is


Nope heres it

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Torker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:31 pm

gman83 wrote:was that the GT laying flat on its Belly with a roll cage in it? , nice project from the ground up if it is


No, that's Sarel's old GT (one of his 1st cars) that spend some time in Precision's yard, then at Roberto and I see it's back with Sarel now...
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby marzbars » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:35 pm

R3000 for 13hp. :shock:

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Torker » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:38 pm

marzbars wrote:R3000 for 13hp. :shock:


That is still a good ratio, I spend R5k for 3kw in my GT...
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Abnormal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:43 pm

NA power does not come cheap.
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby marzbars » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:46 pm

Won't you be able to buy a head that already has stage 2 done to it, sounds a lot easier than stripping the car down and waiting for Sarel

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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Curryboygp » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:47 pm

thats what i was also searching for.
2010 Audi A6 - 2.0Tfsi - Hers
2011 E90 Bmw 320d Mpack - Mine
Ex - 2006 Vw Jetta Fsi 2.0 Turbo Dsg
Ex - Jetta 3 - Csx 2.0 - 8Valve - 101whp
Ex - 1992 Honda Dohc
Ex - Toyota Rxi 20V Turbo - 221whp at 0.4bar boost
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Re: 8 Valve performance

Postby Abnormal » Wed Jun 05, 2013 1:52 pm

check if Sarel has a spare you can swap with.

I have done that previously
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