Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

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Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Kavi » Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:11 am

Hi Guys

I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.

So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.

My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.

I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby dood786 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:47 pm

Moved to the correct technical section as this is not detailing related
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby RoadHaWg » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:37 am

4k still sounds pretty cheap to me. It's a ton of work to do right.

15x8's with the right offset will fit without any flared arches.
The right tyres help too
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby RoadHaWg » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:38 am

These are around 8J
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby AlexTDi » Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:46 am

I can confirm :grin:

Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby RoadHaWg » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:28 am

1.9TurboVw wrote:I can confirm :grin:

Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J


Yeah sorry, I need to stop posting those pics.


Make me nostalgic :grin:
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby AlexTDi » Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:42 am

RoadHaWg wrote:
1.9TurboVw wrote:I can confirm :grin:

Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J


Yeah sorry, I need to stop posting those pics.


Make me nostalgic :grin:


No its all good :lol: Now just give me those Comp's so I can send you some updated pic's :wink:
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Postby Neuk » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:14 pm

1.9TurboVw wrote:Now just give me those Comp's so I can send you some updated pic's :wink:


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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Kavi » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:00 pm

Sweet ride...
So the bottomline is 4k is a good price.

I just needed some clarity before dishing out cash for a job you guys might think its cheaper to complete.

What stiffer dampers can i fit so that there is no rubbing?

I a little new to the modifying scene so I would appreciate all and any help

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby AlexTDi » Tue Dec 04, 2012 4:20 pm

Kavi wrote:Sweet ride...
So the bottomline is 4k is a good price.

I just needed some clarity before dishing out cash for a job you guys might think its cheaper to complete.

What stiffer dampers can i fit so that there is no rubbing?

I a little new to the modifying scene so I would appreciate all and any help


Get the rim's and a set of 175/50R15 Tyres and see if it rubs.

If it does you need dampening adjustable shocks/Coilovers or a custom made shock from the likes of Ian Glass in Capetown.
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby dbndude » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:50 am

drive to durban.
rudy here does it for +- R200 per side.

anybody in durban will tell you that rudy know's his ****....

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Sixty 9 GP » Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:52 am

Just go old School and use a Coke Bottle DIY LMAO... :crazy:
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby vwpro » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:05 am

Kavi wrote:Hi Guys

I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.

So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.

My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.

I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.



make one, you can use a golf1 jack as well or fab one as in picture,
if you use the golf1 jack, take of the swivel foot, weld on a ring on that fits your wheel pcd similar to one on picture, strip of the swivel head on the top and weld mount a adjustable poly roller on in the swivel place and off you go

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Neuk » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:31 am

vwpro wrote:
Kavi wrote:Hi Guys

I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.

So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.

My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.

I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.



make one, you can use a golf1 jack to make one


A far better use of what is essentially the worlds worst jack...
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby PoLonY » Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:40 am

Neuk wrote:
vwpro wrote:
Kavi wrote:Hi Guys

I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.

So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.

My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.

I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.



make one, you can use a golf1 jack to make one


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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby RoadHaWg » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:08 am

Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.

Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby vwpro » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:23 am

RoadHaWg wrote:Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.

Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.



with this device you can roll the lip and stretch the fender a bit, can put quite a bit of force to it, we did some golfs and with 60 drop it clears the tyre side with about 10mm after rolling, just remember if you drive, turn sharp and hit a bump it will rip. it all depends how big you want to flare it and also you will find that 99.9% golf1 ain`t the same on fender gap between driver and passenger side, they differ a bit

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Postby velorani » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:29 am

Does anyone in JHB has the same tool has VWpro
i want to roll my fenders on 05 Velociti

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Postby RoadHaWg » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:30 am

vwpro wrote:
RoadHaWg wrote:Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.

Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.



with this device you can roll the lip and stretch the fender a bit, can put quite a bit of force to it, we did some golfs and with 60 drop it clears the tyre side with about 10mm after rolling, just remember if you drive, turn sharp and hit a bump it will rip. it all depends how big you want to flare it and also you will find that 99.9% golf1 ain`t the same on fender gap between driver and passenger side, they differ a bit



Sure, but when someon says "flared arches" to me I'm thinking this:
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby ACiD_Omega » Wed Dec 05, 2012 11:52 am

I agree with Roadhawg, Flared and rolled is not the same
and it takes special wheels to make a flare work

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby ZiF_k » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:32 pm

dbndude wrote:drive to durban.
rudy here does it for +- R200 per side.

anybody in durban will tell you that rudy know's his s***e....


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Postby Quik-Trix » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:13 pm

Contact details for rudy?

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Postby lawrence » Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:18 pm

Are we talking the same Rudi with the caddy?

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Kavi » Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:33 pm

I want the arches flared and rolled, I want the arch pulled out slightly and rolled to remove the "flange line", it must be completely round, I am removing the 17" and slapping on a set of fat 15"x 8J rims(Lenso BSX with extended lip). it should fill the new arches perfectly
What is the contact details for Rudy. I am driving down in 2 weeks, would prefer to do it before that though.

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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1

Postby Dirty Harry » Thu Dec 06, 2012 12:53 pm

For the wheels you fitting you shouldn't need to do any arch work IMHO

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