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1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:16 pm

hey guys i have a 276 cam installed in my 2005 1400i Citi golf,Im looking for the Correct timing for the cam,its a little dead under 2500 rpm,when i drive slow in traffic it feels like the car is in a lower gear and feels jumpy,it regains power above 2500rpm....and its insane on petrol,cleaned the Airflow meter,distributor points and checked plugs before installing the cam,1 of my friends did the timing and everything was okay for 2 weeks or so....PLEASE HELP
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby razzor » Sun Nov 25, 2012 10:38 pm

You can dial the cam in a bit better if its off but the main reason for your hassles is that its too much cam for the 1400 engine. If it ran fine for a while then it could also be a issue with the management so have it diagnosed.
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Wit Ark » Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:52 pm

276 is a fail for a 1.4 motor, sorry but thats your problem, get a 268. All you trying to do now is mask or patch the problem, lack of torque comes to mind, i am sure you should be able to trade it with someone if you ask / advertise
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:25 pm

So what is the max i can go with a decent Cam ? And thanks for the help guys
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Wit Ark » Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:40 pm

max you can go, i reckon a 298 can be made to fit with some clearances needed to be grinded to the head to make sure the lobes turns freely, then you also need to install a RPM kit as the increased lift is going to cause problems with your standard valvetrain, you can even go bigger, but anything above 300' is usually solid lifter territory so then you need to convert your head to solid lifter trim. However on a 1400base thats pretty pointless unless you plan to rev it to 14000RPM or something ridiculously high, its really not going to help fitting a bigger cam, your problem, you already have a too big cam, either increase displacement or easiest and cheapest option, change to a smaller cam - 268estas. A cam and throttle sizes are a few exceptions to the rules when it comes to the saying bigger is always better.

fairly worked 1600 motors can run well with a 276 cam, if memory serves the max allowed limit for the goldagen challenge rules is a 288'cam for the class-c 1600 motors, but then they rev the crap out of them and they not being driven daily so the no or crap idling and lack of low down power is irrelevant for them.
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:00 pm

Thanks buddy,So you think i must swop the 276 for the 268 then ? Do you think anyone will swop me on this forum ? thanks for all your help. :geek:
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Wit Ark » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:13 pm

sure, there are a lot of guys who upgrade later on to something bigger that have stuff floating around or gathering dust, a post in the for sale section should sort you out, otherwise a new estas billet goes for just over R1K if you dont find a 268. best of luck. with a 268 your peak power might drop marginally but the over all drive ability, idling and torque curve will improve
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby maranou » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:34 pm

272 cam,branch and 50mm 2 box freeflow and unichip 80kw 130nm on 1.4i 8v and stil very light on feul :crazy:
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:45 pm

I know allot of guys with 272 cams,will it give me the same problem as the 276 ?...
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby maranou » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:48 pm

if u fit a uni chip and get it fitted professionally and tunned the 272 wil give u years of pleasure and kick and stil be light on feul,lots of guys do use it on 1.4i
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:54 pm

What bothers me is,The Car was really good on petrol and had power,now its just dead when its either cold or hot under 2500 Rpm.....
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby VWicked » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:01 am

We tried a 282 on 1.4 and it was too long for the car and idled heavy was heavy on fuel but made power up top. The 276 should behave similar and it is way too long for the 1.4... Go 268 you won't be sorry
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Stephan » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:06 am

Have this checked. If the car was running fine when the cam was fitted and it's not running fine now then it's not the cam? Check the coil etc..

I had a 272 STK cam, Vernier pulley, Timing and fuel advanced via vagcom, 55 step 57 free flow with 2 small box setup and a and a BMC cone (Worked like a cold air induction) and my 1.4i was VERY Fast..

Under 2500rpm I had no poor power really but here from 2800 to 6000rpm my car pulled hard.

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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:09 am

I know the guy paid R1800 for the cam and and waited 2 weeks for it to get to SA.....I really dont know the brand of it,and me and the guy aren't friends anymore so i cant find out... :bang:
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:10 am

You see thats the thing,its dead under 2500,and uses Petrol like insane,R100 i get like 40kilos...Thats insane!!!....its not like a normal dead,its almost like the car is in a lower gear when i pull away normal,it jumps a few times and then its okay
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:26 pm

If anyone wants to swop me please let me know,I dont know the Brand of the 276 cam,all i know its imported....The cam is still in my car and im From Pretoria North,I cant post anything in the For sale Section cause im still new...Im looking for a 268 cam,Thanks guys
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Irfaan » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:27 pm

268 that is all
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:32 pm

To be honest yeah,just want to fix my Car before the Holidays,The cam is 4 Months old
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Irfaan » Tue Nov 27, 2012 4:39 pm

Take out the 276, put in a 268. Get it mapped and enjoy. As for the jerking under 2500 rpm the 268 does it as well. any dyno graphs you'd like to share?
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:38 pm

Nothing 2 share sorry,The cam is in my car for 2 weeks now....And its the petrol thing that bothers me
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby ahmedy » Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:56 pm

Chopstix,I have a 268 cam in my 1.4 and its simply amazing.I don't have a chip,knn filter or exhaust done as yet and therefore my fuel consumption is a bit heavy but I assure you that its perfectly fine to drive and I don't have any issues under 2500rpm. My car was only sorted out with fueling via vagcom. Does your car have a chip fitted?

I do plan on getting my exhaust done in the near future and then a chip and tune. But for now I'm happy with my golfie.

Look around for a 268,I really looked around for a long long time but trust me it will come up,buy it,fit it and then sell your 276 which should not be a hassle at all.
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby chopstix » Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:06 pm

No chip or anything....Just the Cowley Free flow box at the back and the cam....Stock Filter and everything....Like i said the car was awesome the 1st week,and the petrol usage was fine,If i can only sort that part out then ill keep the 276
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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Psycho8v » Wed Nov 28, 2012 8:09 am

chopstix wrote:No chip or anything....Just the Cowley Free flow box at the back and the cam....Stock Filter and everything....Like i said the car was awesome the 1st week,and the petrol usage was fine,If i can only sort that part out then ill keep the 276


As said before, for drivability, the 276 is not the ideal cam for a 1.4. In my opinion, it was a dog to drive. I always had to down shift when I wanted to pass a car, or else my car would just give me the o_0 look and tune me NO. Used to jerk under 2500rpm as well. This was with a Unichip. In all fairness, once that cam got to it's happy place in the rev range, oh my word. It left a smile on my face. But even stock 1.4's would outsprint me in first and second gear. If you really want to hang on to your 276, fit a piggyback chip, Unichip, or Perfect Power. That will sort your fuelling issues out. Unless there is something else at fault, like your temperature sensor or something.

Edit to add: I swopped my 276 out for a 268, best move I ever made. :wink:

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Re: 1400i with 276 cam

Postby Psycho8v » Wed Nov 28, 2012 9:32 am

As per above. PM Delokes, he has a 268 hydraulic cam.

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