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Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:45 am
by zane.mk1
I am busy getting some stuff together to detail my ride.
The buff machine i'll be using is a Makita with adjustbable speeds.
What speed setting should i use when buffing?
should i press the machine hard against the car or should i let it glide across the car.
i've buffed the car b4 using a high speed and pressed very hard, ended up burning the clearcoat in some areas and added a whole lot of swirls.
would like to fix this and do it right this time round.
any help will be appreciated.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:51 am
by salo mk2
detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=66024
That's has all the info you're looking for. Quite informative.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:17 pm
by lawrence
Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:27 pm
by zane.mk1
salo mk2 wrote:detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=66024
That's has all the info you're looking for. Quite informative.
tx for the link, info overload, but usefull.

Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:07 pm
by zane.mk1
lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
im using a rotary polisher.
will abovementioned speeds apply to the rotary polisher as well.
did you use the same buffing pad for glazing, swirl removal and wax/sealant?
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:28 pm
by onyx
zane.mk1 wrote:lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
im using a rotary polisher.
will abovementioned speeds apply to the rotary polisher as well.
did you use the same buffing pad for glazing, swirl removal and wax/sealant?
Your last question worries me
Rather get an old panel and practice for a while before you decide to do some serious damage to you paintwork.
OR
Pay someone in the know to do it for you and then its up to you to maintain that finish.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:53 pm
by zain_c
I've never used a machine on my car just in case i f*ck it up...IMO the paintwork still looks awesome after 8yrs. Still has the orange peel effect and the colour is deep and glossy.
I'm using the Autoglym SRP and Autoglym extra gloss protection (sealant).
Handjobs FTW!

Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:00 pm
by onyx
zainyboymk1 wrote:I've never used a machine on my car just in case i f*ck it up...IMO the paintwork still looks awesome after 8yrs. Still has the orange peel effect and the colour is deep and glossy.
I'm using the Autoglym SRP and Autoglym extra gloss protection (sealant).
Handjobs FTW!

SRP + EGP...

Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:02 pm
by zain_c
sorry for the hijack....but where can i get Autoglym clay?
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:05 pm
by onyx
zainyboymk1 wrote:sorry for the hijack....but where can i get Autoglym clay?
www.crazydetailer.co.za
Why Autoglym Clay though?
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:07 pm
by zane.mk1
onyx wrote:zane.mk1 wrote:lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
im using a rotary polisher.
will abovementioned speeds apply to the rotary polisher as well.
did you use the same buffing pad for glazing, swirl removal and wax/sealant?
Your last question worries me
Rather get an old panel and practice for a while before you decide to do some serious damage to you paintwork.
OR
Pay someone in the know to do it for you and then its up to you to maintain that finish.
i would like to do this myself, so some help would be appreciated. what type of buffing pads should i get? my paintwork is in quite a sorry state. dull and full of scratches. the roof is also starting to fade.
i initially wanted to pay sum1 to do it for me so i though, stuff it, i'll read up on the whole detailing process and try an do it myself.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:09 pm
by zain_c
I like sticking to one brand...and from my experience with Autoglym, the results are alway excellent.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:13 pm
by zane.mk1
zainyboymk1 wrote:I've never used a machine on my car just in case i f*ck it up...IMO the paintwork still looks awesome after 8yrs. Still has the orange peel effect and the colour is deep and glossy.
I'm using the Autoglym SRP and Autoglym extra gloss protection (sealant).
Handjobs FTW!

i know you told me its in cavendish square, but what the name of the place and price?
need to get some stuff together.
anyhoo, there so many stuff on the market i dont know what to get. the easiest i can get would be megs products. but after having a look at the prices of stuff on crazy detailer, i might as well order the whole katoot from them.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:18 pm
by onyx
Read... research... read more.... and then practice on your buddies car

Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:22 pm
by zane.mk1
onyx wrote:Read... research... read more.... and then practice on your buddies car

thought about that just now.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:22 pm
by lawrence
zane.mk1 wrote:lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
im using a rotary polisher.
will abovementioned speeds apply to the rotary polisher as well.
did you use the same buffing pad for glazing, swirl removal and wax/sealant?
Nope, an orange Lake country pad for swirl removal, the green one for glazing and a cheap ass one that came with my shield da for applying wax. You can go read my rides thread... I posted up a full write up on the detailing I did last weekend on my polo.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:24 pm
by lawrence
zainyboymk1 wrote:I've never used a machine on my car just in case i f*ck it up...IMO the paintwork still looks awesome after 8yrs. Still has the orange peel effect and the colour is deep and glossy.
I'm using the Autoglym SRP and Autoglym extra gloss protection (sealant).
Handjobs FTW!

I think it will be pretty hard to **** your paint up with a DA polisher. And you will honestly be surprised at how much better your paint will look once done
and as for the orange peel effect, from what I understand this is not something you want, as it will distort the reflection of light off you paint thereby decreasing the mirror effect/shine?
Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 11:13 pm
by xion
+1 to what onyx said,
With a rotary research then practice on a scrap panel. Rotary has a learning curve and it takes time to master with different pads and products. Once you get it it becomes easier .... Product and pads and backing plates also make big difference when buffing with a rotary some products dust really bad so it helps to do your homework 1st.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:04 am
by zane.mk1
xion wrote:+1 to what onyx said,
With a rotary research then practice on a scrap panel. Rotary has a learning curve and it takes time to master with different pads and products. Once you get it it becomes easier .... Product and pads and backing plates also make big difference when buffing with a rotary some products dust really bad so it helps to do your homework 1st.
tx, will do.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:20 am
by Tdi jetta 4 ever
4 answers/tips to your question.
1, About 70% of your machines maximum speed.
2, Little force, about 3 kg.
3, Try not to keep the machine at one spot, move it side ways.
4, Do a panel at a time.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:14 am
by zane.mk1
Tdi jetta 4 ever wrote:4 answers/tips to your question.
1, About 70% of your machines maximum speed.
2, Little force, about 3 kg.
3, Try not to keep the machine at one spot, move it side ways.
4, Do a panel at a time.
tx for the tips. i really wanna be sure how to properly use the thing b4 applying it to my car.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 10:20 pm
by Tdi jetta 4 ever
zane.mk1 wrote:Tdi jetta 4 ever wrote:4 answers/tips to your question.
1, About 70% of your machines maximum speed.
2, Little force, about 3 kg.
3, Try not to keep the machine at one spot, move it side ways.
4, Do a panel at a time.
tx for the tips. i really wanna be sure how to properly use the thing b4 applying it to my car.
Pleasure, let us know how it went. You will get the feeling eventually.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:05 am
by zane.mk1
will do a full write up.
Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:39 am
by Mojo
lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
really keen to take my detailing to the next step , also scared of machines but cant get the swirls out by hand .. I just dont understand how you know what force you are appling ?? dont even think ill be able to apply that much just curious - is it something that you can feel more once you are busy operating the machine ?

Re: Buff Machine Speeds
Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 11:48 am
by lawrence
Wit Blitz wrote:lawrence wrote:Is your machine a DA or rotary polisher?
With my DA I used the following settings
Swirl removal - speed setting 4 to 5, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure
Glazing - speed setting 3 to 4, with about 5kg to 10kg of downward pressure but on the last 2 passes, only the weight of the machine
Wax/sealant application - speed setting 3, only the weight of the machine
really keen to take my detailing to the next step , also scared of machines but cant get the swirls out by hand .. I just dont understand how you know what force you are appling ?? dont even think ill be able to apply that much just curious - is it something that you can feel more once you are busy operating the machine ?

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