2E or ADY

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2E or ADY

Postby zain_c » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:34 pm

so just been trying to decide which motor is better? Some guys are convinced the ADY is better than the 2E and vice versa.

What are the differences between the 2 motors? :geek: As I've heard the ADY is a newer motor.

Is there anyone that can break it down to me with regards to which one would be the best option.

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby Jetta2 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 9:50 pm

Specwise they are identical.
Power and torque wise, both are also identical.

Yes, the ADY is a newer model motor than the 2E, so if getting an ADY chances are good that it will have less km on it than a 2E.
Also the 2E has only a dizzy, while the ADY has a 60-2 crank angle sensor already fitted as stock (60-2 wheel fitted to crank and sensor fitted to the block under the dizzy).
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby warrenk » Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:41 am

Personally I prefer the 3A or short-block 2L as they are often referred to

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby mk1-8valve. » Mon Jun 13, 2011 8:18 am

Is the AGG the same as 2E & ADY in terms of spec's.

WRT timing setup, are the timing marking on the AGG the same as any other 8v motor or does the set up differ in any way (i.e. cam pulley to tappet cover, dissy points to no. 1 cylinder, crank pulley marking line up to lower engine cover marking, no.1 piston on TDC). TIA
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby Jetta2 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:05 am

All the 2 litre 8V VW motors share the following specs (engine codes are 2E, ADY, AGG, AKR & ABA):

Capacity - 1984cc
Bore - 82,5mm
Stroke - 92,8mm
Compression ratio - 10,4:1
Power - 85kW @ 5400rpm
Torque - 166Nm @ 3200rpm (2E, ADY and ABA), @2600rpm for the AGG and AKR

Power and torque figures are at the crank and at the Coast.

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby kingr » Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:10 am

zainyboymk1 wrote:so just been trying to decide which motor is better? Some guys are convinced the ADY is better than the 2E and vice versa.

What are the differences between the 2 motors? :geek: As I've heard the ADY is a newer motor.

Is there anyone that can break it down to me with regards to which one would be the best option.

Thanks

Zain


I thought you where going to go 16v :evil:

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby mk1-8valve. » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:43 am

@guys running 2.0 8v motors with a 288deg cam on aftermarket management.

How does your motors idle when you start up in the morning or evening when its cold? Does it idle un-assisted?
I have to keep my foot on the accelerator, use the fuel pot thing to enrich the mixture and wait for the motor to warm up half way on the gauge before it idles on its own.
I plan on putting the std A cam back in & retune it to make the car idle better (un-assisted) and for reliability & drivability sake.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby joggiep » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:52 am

mk1-8valve wrote: I have to keep my foot on the accelerator, use the fuel pot thing to enrich the mixture and wait for the motor to warm up ....


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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby aran.com » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am

mk1-8valve. wrote:@guys running 2.0 8v motors with a 288deg cam on aftermarket management.

How does your motors idle when you start up in the morning or evening when its cold? Does it idle un-assisted?
I have to keep my foot on the accelerator, use the fuel pot thing to enrich the mixture and wait for the motor to warm up half way on the gauge before it idles on its own.
I plan on putting the std A cam back in & retune it to make the car idle better (un-assisted) and for reliability & drivability sake.


not the same but i had a 1.8 with 288 and standard mp9 had no problems with idle or drivability

maybe the tuner didnt setup the cold start correctly?
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby mk1-8valve. » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:54 am

joggiep wrote:
mk1-8valve wrote: I have to keep my foot on the accelerator, use the fuel pot thing to enrich the mixture and wait for the motor to warm up ....


Gotech --- spit
There is your issue !


Lol, close, its mr. turbo v1.7.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby Jetta2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:57 am

If you have a laptop, tune the cold start yourself through the Mr Turbo software.
I tuned the Perfect Power XMS4 in the Jetta that way through the LetRipp software and cold starts are no issue. Also did the same with the Gotech fitted previously and also no issues there with cold starts.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby MarnoG » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:01 pm

Jetta2 wrote:All the 2 litre 8V VW motors share the following specs (engine codes are 2E, ADY, AGG, AKR & ABA):

Capacity - 1984cc
Bore - 82,5mm
Stroke - 92,8mm
Compression ratio - 10,4:1
Power - 85kW @ 5400rpm
Torque - 166Nm @ 3200rpm (2E, ADY and ABA), @2600rpm for the AGG and AKR

Power and torque figures are at the crank and at the Coast.

Check here for more info (scroll down to the 3rd block):
http://www.doppel-wobber.de/wbb2/golf_info.php?id=124

So, same internal specs. How about external? Mounts? Mating it with gearboxes?
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby Jetta2 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:19 pm

Same as well.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby zain_c » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:56 pm

thanks for the help guys...it looks like i'll go with the ADY just coz because its a newer motor. what's the issue with the dizzy though? I've heard some guys talking about this before.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby mojo786 » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:23 pm

zainyboymk1 wrote:thanks for the help guys...it looks like i'll go with the ADY just coz because its a newer motor. what's the issue with the dizzy though? I've heard some guys talking about this before.

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby clinton-mk2 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:00 pm

@ jetta2 do you perhaps know why the torque of the AGG is made at lower rpm?

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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby Jetta2 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 1:18 pm

clinton-mk2 wrote:@ jetta2 do you perhaps know why the torque of the AGG is made at lower rpm?


Different cam and ECU settings I suppose.
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Re: 2E or ADY

Postby poloplayaWP » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:27 pm

Forgot about my motor lol AFW 2.0 MP9.
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