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VR6 gearbox

Post by young gun » Fri May 20, 2011 1:54 pm

hi guys i have a couple questions regarding the 'boxes

1) am i correct in saying that only vr gearboxes will work on the vr motor? or are there any other alternatives i can look into? reason being the boxes are abit difficult to get hold of!

2) the shift cables do they have to be from a vr or what other alternatives do i have? can any shift cables from any cable shift box work?

3) assuming there are alternative cable options. will this require me having to change the shift tower to match whichever cable and cable shift box i use?

Appreciate the help guys :hi:
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by panic-mechanic » Fri May 20, 2011 2:27 pm

VR6 has a different bellhousing and bolt pattern so the 4 cyl gearbox does not fit direct. You can use the front casing of a vr box though and build it onto a 02A type gearbox - ie. the 2l 16v box and the gear sets etc. cross fits. Cables are essentially the same in working but the lengths might differ between the models a little. The shift tower will determine the type of fitting that the cable needs so yes depending on what that looks like the cable might differ.
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by rzr » Fri May 20, 2011 2:42 pm

hi
1)the importers have the golf4 vr6 gearbox apparently only one mounting is different. or you get the vr6 bellhousing and you can fit it to an abf box which is available relatively cheap only difference shorter ratios- like panic says

2)in reality the ends are different but most boxes have similar movement. ive actually fitted a jetta 5 tdi selector box and cables to my abf gearbox when my vr6 cable broke. i only needed to modify the bracket for the cables and the end links on the shift tower.

3) vw vortex guys say that the shift tower and selector box/cables from golf 4 02j box will work.

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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by young gun » Fri May 20, 2011 4:40 pm

thnaks for the replies guys

@panic: if possible i would like to avoid the swapping the bellhousing route so i will keep on the look out. and in short basically whatever cables i use it would be wise to get its corresponding shift tower and then swop it over? will say for example the shift tower from the o2j boxes be a direct fit into the vr box??

@rzr: thanks for the info i will check with my local importers if they have any of these boxes!!
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Post by panic-mechanic » Fri May 20, 2011 7:58 pm

ifyou don't want to change bits on the box then there is pretty much only one thing and that is finding a complete VR box.
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by young gun » Sat May 21, 2011 12:24 am

faair enough but sourcing the cables and shift box is another story...if i were to use the shifter box and cables from say a golf 4 gti for example. would it be wise and easier to take the shidt tower as well as it would match up perfectly for the cables? are the shift towers on the cable shift gearboxes interchangable?

thanks for the help!
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by rzr » Sat May 21, 2011 10:59 pm

the guys in vw vortex clearly show the 02j golf 4 shift tower being fitted to the 02a vr6 box and i think it would be easier to do that. they say that the shifting setup from the o2j feels really good as well compared to the vr6s setup.
i can tell you that compared to the vr6 selector the tdi one that i fitted feels much better. it was not that difficult imo to make the jetta5 cables work on my shift tower, but i dont know your skill level.and i didn't have the option of buying the shift tower as they had sold the engine and gearbox already.
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by Jetta2 » Sat May 21, 2011 11:09 pm

There is an 02A fitted to the Jetta and I swopped the stock 02A shift tower on the 'box with an 02J one. Remove the two bolts, pull it out, push 02J tower in, bolt it down. Done.

Keep in mind it is not a VR 02A 'box, but the CDA 'box, but you can do the tower swop anyways on a VR 02A as well.

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Stock 02A tower:
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02A on left, 02J on right:
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02J bolted in place:
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Re: VR6 gearbox

Post by young gun » Sun May 22, 2011 12:06 am

thank you so much for the info guys really appreciate it ur advice has answered my questions perfectly!! npw thats one less thing to worry about!

thanks for those pics jetta 2 i thought there was more to it than just swapping them over but that sounds awesome!!

thanks again guys i would be lost without this forum!!
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