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Re: 9a and pl mk1 conversion possible

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blou_poot wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:18 pm Just red... Using injector positive i beleive...

No other lights turning on, using 3 pin coil.

Breaking me head trying yo figure out what might be wrong.

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No other lights coming on during cranking inducates that you are not getting trigger signal from dizzy to ecu. Once you get trigger signal to ecu, you will see RPM.
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Yes its wired that way..

Will check the voltages tomorrow...

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blou_poot wrote: Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:39 pm Yes its wired that way..

Will check the voltages tomorrow...

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I had the same issue u had bro. I'm not saying 3pin coil doesn't work coz many people has had success with it using dicktator BUT I blew 3 different hall senders wiring it that way and have had success using a e30 BMW electronic bottle coil and dicktator tp100 so far. When blowing dizzys I had connected injectors, coil and dizzy using the injector 12v. Also had minor success using the tps 5v to power the dizzy but that got the car driving for 5metres then it switched off or would break off at about 3k rpm. The only trouble free solution I've had thus far was going BMW coil plus tp100. It will cost u R200 for a 2nd hand coil and about R530 for a tp100. Worth every penny to me considering my car has been driving for the longest time since doing the build lol. Just my 2c,use it don't use it...just letting u know how I over came the same issue ur having. If there's only the red light on the dicktator chances are (n this has happened to me 3c) that uv blown the hall sender in the dizzy.
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Use switched 12V from ignition for coil and dissy. Injectors power from ecu.
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R u using this diagram??? It helps! Image

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Any updates yet???

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None will take dizzy and coil tomorrow for testing.

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Ahh goodluck bro. Keep ur head up brother u will get it figured out don't worry

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Yip... Hopefully i can get it sorted soon

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Hope you are getting this sorted soon. Think you are very eager to start.
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What was the outcome on dissy and coil testing?
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PapaJo wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:31 pm What was the outcome on dissy and coil testing?
Coil and Dizzy Working Perfectly, unfortunately had no time to retest, i believe the issue might be with the relay or somewhere with the wiring.
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blou_poot wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 10:14 am
PapaJo wrote: Mon Jun 18, 2018 8:31 pm What was the outcome on dissy and coil testing?
Coil and Dizzy Working Perfectly, unfortunately had no time to retest, i believe the issue might be with the relay or somewhere with the wiring.
Good to hear dissy and coil is fine. You’ll get this sorted. Just recheck all wiring.
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Will do.

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Managed to sort out the issue... Dizzy signal picked up.

However i have a new issue... Dicktator red light is off when cranking? To my limited knowledge this should not be the case?

Any idea what can be wrong? Rechecked all wires everything seems couture...

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The dicktator isn't getting enough power then. Is it connected straight to the battery and is the battery fully charged?

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Connected straight yes.

Battery is charged

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blou_poot wrote: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:04 pm Managed to sort out the issue... Dizzy signal picked up.

However i have a new issue... Dicktator red light is off when cranking? To my limited knowledge this should not be the case?

Any idea what can be wrong? Rechecked all wires everything seems couture...

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Thick red wire connect to 12vpositive terminal on battery, thick black connect direct to batery negative terminal. The thin red ignition wire beed to connect to switched 12v. Try finding the old 12v coil wire ( think it is black ir black red stripe) or acc switched wire. I found a black switched wire at fusebox and used that. Red light must stay on during cranking.
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Definitely iginition issue... Lights go dead when starting from the key. However when starting from the starter solenoid everything is good.

Will buy start button to wire in now.

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Definitely iginition issue... Lights go dead when starting from the key. However when starting from the starter solenoid everything is good.

Will buy start button to wire in now.

https://youtu.be/D-LdWXuLZEE

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One step closer. Getting there.
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Watched your video now. What is your rpm on cranking of motor? Do you have a start up map loaded?
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Ignition switch is about R60 at goldwagen, surely someone you know is near one and can send you via the post.
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Fitted the switch today.

Cant believe this had me struggling fidling with other stuff.

https://youtu.be/lUNYdioJpho

Thanks for all the help. Next steps:

-timing
-exhaust
-fitting mp9 throttle body
-dyno
-change some water pipes
- fasten inner cvs
- new shock mounts
- alignment
- solder and cover wires including mounting point for the start button.
-enjoy enjoy enjoy...

No specific order except for the last part

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