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Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:32 am

Hi there,

some red oxide has been split on my paintwork, tiny little splashes.

What would you suggest is best for removal?
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:27 am

When you say red oxide are you talking about the primer paint stuff?

How long ago did the happen?
How big are the splashes?

You could look at a plastic razor blade to first gently cut off the main portion of the 'blob' then use detailers clay to remove the rest.

Other options may include some decent tar remover, or goo gone, depending on how fresh they still are
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Kyle » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:30 am

lawrence wrote:When you say red oxide are you talking about the primer paint stuff?

How long ago did the happen?
How big are the splashes?

You could look at a plastic razor blade to first gently cut off the main portion of the 'blob' then use detailers clay to remove the rest.

Other options may include some decent tar remover, or goo gone, depending on how fresh they still are
Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:38 am

Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:When you say red oxide are you talking about the primer paint stuff?

How long ago did the happen?
How big are the splashes?

You could look at a plastic razor blade to first gently cut off the main portion of the 'blob' then use detailers clay to remove the rest.

Other options may include some decent tar remover, or goo gone, depending on how fresh they still are
Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by Dougi » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:40 am

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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Kyle » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:40 am

lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:When you say red oxide are you talking about the primer paint stuff?

How long ago did the happen?
How big are the splashes?

You could look at a plastic razor blade to first gently cut off the main portion of the 'blob' then use detailers clay to remove the rest.

Other options may include some decent tar remover, or goo gone, depending on how fresh they still are
Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:42 am

Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:When you say red oxide are you talking about the primer paint stuff?

How long ago did the happen?
How big are the splashes?

You could look at a plastic razor blade to first gently cut off the main portion of the 'blob' then use detailers clay to remove the rest.

Other options may include some decent tar remover, or goo gone, depending on how fresh they still are
Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
On freshly splashed paint.... I wonder how you and I know this so welll :oops: :lol:

I just think that once the paint has dried properly, claying may be a more viable option.....
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Kyle » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:43 am

lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote: Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
On freshly splashed paint.... I wonder how you and I know this so welll :oops: :lol:

I just think that once the paint has dried properly, claying may be a more viable option.....
:iagree:
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:02 pm

lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote: Who in their right mind would drop paint on a car :lol:
Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
On freshly splashed paint.... I wonder how you and I know this so welll :oops: :lol:

I just think that once the paint has dried properly, claying may be a more viable option.....
It is good and Dry, clay sort of works, but not really

and yes we are referring to the primer paint.

car was standing in storage, and a couple numpty's splashed it
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:04 pm

Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote:
lawrence wrote: Don't make me say something you might regret :moon:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
On freshly splashed paint.... I wonder how you and I know this so welll :oops: :lol:

I just think that once the paint has dried properly, claying may be a more viable option.....
It is good and Dry, clay sort of works, but not really
when you say sort of works, but not really.... what do you mean?

What clay are you using
What lube
How long did you rub the area
How 'big' is the splash of paint you are trying to remove.

Put it this way.... a small (like just visible) dot of tar can take many many passes to remove.... claying is not a quick process, especially on larger contaminants....but if done right, it is pretty safe to do.

You may just need to give it more of a chance, or move to a medium grade clay, but this will cause some marring which will need to be polished out
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:08 pm

lawrence wrote:
Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:
Kyle wrote: But yeah oblitarate works :lol:
On freshly splashed paint.... I wonder how you and I know this so welll :oops: :lol:

I just think that once the paint has dried properly, claying may be a more viable option.....
It is good and Dry, clay sort of works, but not really
when you say sort of works, but not really.... what do you mean?

What clay are you using
What lube
How long did you rub the area
How 'big' is the splash of paint you are trying to remove.

Put it this way.... a small (like just visible) dot of tar can take many many passes to remove.... claying is not a quick process, especially on larger contaminants....but if done right, it is pretty safe to do.

You may just need to give it more of a chance, or move to a medium grade clay, but this will cause some marring which will need to be polished out
Um, Not sure of the Clay or lube, detailing products a friend had that we tried, small splashes like the size of say an ant to much larger splotches like the size of a tick tac
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:11 pm

In terms of the usual size of contaminants clay is designed to remove, that be big :eek:

I would give the clay another go and pick one 'splash' and just keep at it.... if it is removing the oxide, even slowly, then with sufficient time, it will all come off.

But like I said it may be quicker to remove the bulk with a plastic razor, then clay the rest off.

Maybe go check Etienne (not sure where he is in relation to you) as he may be able to assist?
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Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:12 pm

lawrence wrote:In terms of the usual size of contaminants clay is designed to remove, that be big :eek:

I would give the clay another go and pick one 'splash' and just keep at it.... if it is removing the oxide, even slowly, then with sufficient time, it will all come off.

But like I said it may be quicker to remove the bulk with a plastic razor, then clay the rest off.

Maybe go check Etienne (not sure where he is in relation to you) as he may be able to assist?
Yeah, small issue there......

Whole left side of the car was affected......
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:28 pm

Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:In terms of the usual size of contaminants clay is designed to remove, that be big :eek:

I would give the clay another go and pick one 'splash' and just keep at it.... if it is removing the oxide, even slowly, then with sufficient time, it will all come off.

But like I said it may be quicker to remove the bulk with a plastic razor, then clay the rest off.

Maybe go check Etienne (not sure where he is in relation to you) as he may be able to assist?
Yeah, small issue there......

Whole left side of the car was affected......
:eek: :cry:

Yoh that's hectic dude....

Any chance of pics? Maybe a close up of one of the spots, and then a full shot to show the extend of the damage....?
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Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:31 pm

lawrence wrote:
Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:In terms of the usual size of contaminants clay is designed to remove, that be big :eek:

I would give the clay another go and pick one 'splash' and just keep at it.... if it is removing the oxide, even slowly, then with sufficient time, it will all come off.

But like I said it may be quicker to remove the bulk with a plastic razor, then clay the rest off.

Maybe go check Etienne (not sure where he is in relation to you) as he may be able to assist?
Yeah, small issue there......

Whole left side of the car was affected......
:eek: :cry:

Yoh that's hectic dude....

Any chance of pics? Maybe a close up of one of the spots, and then a full shot to show the extend of the damage....?
Will PM you later
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:32 pm

thanks - I am busy asking my fellow detailing geeks :geek: over the pond if they have any solutions.... will give you feedback as soon as I have any :thumbup:
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:58 pm

Some feedback....

"Unless they changed the formula, red oxide primer is a lacquer based product and will need to be removed with lacquer thinner on a cloth. If the paint is factory then you'll be safe using this method. Before saturating the area I'd first try a plastic razor blade and a hair dryer. Try heating up the area and see if you can get the blade under the primer and peel it off"

Graeme... this comes from a very well respected detailer and should work, however just use caution and common sense with regards to the thinners.... less is more, slow is better..... just take it easy and don't go bananas initially. Test it out in a relatively inconspicuous place first and proceed with caution.

Really hope you come right bud :thumbup:
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Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 1:59 pm

lawrence wrote:Some feedback....

"Unless they changed the formula, red oxide primer is a lacquer based product and will need to be removed with lacquer thinner on a cloth. If the paint is factory then you'll be safe using this method. Before saturating the area I'd first try a plastic razor blade and a hair dryer. Try heating up the area and see if you can get the blade under the primer and peel it off"

Graeme... this comes from a very well respected detailer and should work, however just use caution and common sense with regards to the thinners.... less is more, slow is better..... just take it easy and don't go bananas initially. Test it out in a relatively inconspicuous place first and proceed with caution.

Really hope you come right bud :thumbup:
Thanks Lawrence
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by lawrence » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:01 pm

Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:Some feedback....

"Unless they changed the formula, red oxide primer is a lacquer based product and will need to be removed with lacquer thinner on a cloth. If the paint is factory then you'll be safe using this method. Before saturating the area I'd first try a plastic razor blade and a hair dryer. Try heating up the area and see if you can get the blade under the primer and peel it off"

Graeme... this comes from a very well respected detailer and should work, however just use caution and common sense with regards to the thinners.... less is more, slow is better..... just take it easy and don't go bananas initially. Test it out in a relatively inconspicuous place first and proceed with caution.

Really hope you come right bud :thumbup:
Thanks Lawrence
Pleasure bud - you may also need to follow up with a bit of a polish, but first try get the red oxide off - that is the main issue.... we can find someone up there to polish the paint with relative ease.
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Gremlin » Wed Feb 19, 2014 2:06 pm

lawrence wrote:
Gremlin wrote:
lawrence wrote:Some feedback....

"Unless they changed the formula, red oxide primer is a lacquer based product and will need to be removed with lacquer thinner on a cloth. If the paint is factory then you'll be safe using this method. Before saturating the area I'd first try a plastic razor blade and a hair dryer. Try heating up the area and see if you can get the blade under the primer and peel it off"

Graeme... this comes from a very well respected detailer and should work, however just use caution and common sense with regards to the thinners.... less is more, slow is better..... just take it easy and don't go bananas initially. Test it out in a relatively inconspicuous place first and proceed with caution.

Really hope you come right bud :thumbup:
Thanks Lawrence
Pleasure bud - you may also need to follow up with a bit of a polish, but first try get the red oxide off - that is the main issue.... we can find someone up there to polish the paint with relative ease.
My Mate will help up with the polish, just needed info on that little issue
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Re: Removing red Oxide from paint

Post by Kyle » Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:22 pm

I see you made the right choice
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