Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
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Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
I've done a 2L 8v conversion from a 1.4i, the 2L 8v has a 272 cam, chip, race-spec branches. will adding bigger throttles enhance the performance in terms of pushing more kilo watts on the wheels? and with acceleration? or what other options do i have to make the car faster in terms of robot to robot racing?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Headwork, 298 cam and standalone management will do a lot, I wouldn't consider a 272 cam 'wild'
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VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
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Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Do the car need to be used as a daily drive?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Are you talking itb's or a single larger throttle body?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
I think itbs, just fitting a larger single throttle wont make a difference unlees the manifold is modded to accomdate the larger throttle
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
I agree with Torker. Also, where are you from? I've read that 2.0 8V motors like the 276 cam (good pull and economy), anything bigger than 276 is where the motor really starts coming alive. I've got a 268 in, and can't wait to go bigger.Torker wrote:Headwork, 298 cam and standalone management will do a lot, I wouldn't consider a 272 cam 'wild'
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
John....what i would recommend. Get head flowed, with 276 and vernier. And your choice of managment....i use gotech
My car with that setup made 94wkw
My car with that setup made 94wkw
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Unless you have a dad that loves tuning gotech then nobody else likes to tune it so don't go to gotech unless your tuner loves it. Based on what is most popular that everybody tunes rather use a dicktator.
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Panic jus gave my input....
John can use whatever he is happy with
John can use whatever he is happy with
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
I also just gave my input. If it was biased i would have told him to use perfect power and that i'm one of only about 3 people that tunes it in jhb.
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Kwel then....just want the guys who does these builds to be happy with there choice.
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
I actually agree with both of you. Panic said this many times before. Before you go and buy a management system, go to your tuner and find out what system he is good at tuning, as your management will only be as good as your tuner. (ok some systems are worse than others, but generally speaking)
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Psycho1400 couldnt put it better myself...
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
thanks guys but still puzzled, but still dono if bigger throttles will make a difference?? and ya i wanna put management..... what head work would you guys suggest??
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
thanks man already have a vernier pully inDono82 wrote:John....what i would recommend. Get head flowed, with 276 and vernier. And your choice of managment....i use gotech
My car with that setup made 94wkw
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not too clued up with the whole mechanics thing..... so i dono wat u mean?panic-mechanic wrote:Are you talking itb's or a single larger throttle body?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Biggest mistake guys make is by slapping a set of throttles on a motor without doing the supporting mods and thinking that they are going to make a million horsepower. Your engine must have the ability to breath (headwork) and rev (cam) before considering throttles. Vernier pulley in most of the cases is a 'look good' mod without real function, it only contributes something if you have done mods to the motor that throws the cam timing out, like skim the head or deck the block.
Current rides:
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
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Single throttle:John wrote:not too clued up with the whole mechanics thing..... so i dono wat u mean?panic-mechanic wrote:Are you talking itb's or a single larger throttle body?
Individual Throttle Bodies:
Current rides:
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
toyota frottles on a u-flow head
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Not any more...M3THANOL wrote:toyota frottles on a u-flow head
Current rides:
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
VW Golf - 83 GT 2.1 16V 2-door with throttles
VW Golf - 78 LS 2.0 8V 4-door (2.1 ABF with throttles in progress)
VW Golf - '08 Citi Storm - 1.4 for now
Hyundai - 1.4 Getz (daily)
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
not really hey manily weekendsViper wrote:Do the car need to be used as a daily drive?
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
Toker i already have a Cam, now i see, i want itb's would that be a good thing or what???? and wat sort of head work should i do?? i also dont have management the just modified my original computer box.... i want this thing to be as quick as it possibly can, and i dono wat to do??? cause im not too clued up with this whole engine game and doing them up.
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First staart with a propper managment .
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Re: Will throttles on a 2L 8v ADY engine make a difference?
So guys.... whats the update / bottom-line on this?
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