Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
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Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
Hi Guys
I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.
So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.
My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.
I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.
I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.
So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.
My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.
I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
Moved to the correct technical section as this is not detailing related
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
4k still sounds pretty cheap to me. It's a ton of work to do right.
15x8's with the right offset will fit without any flared arches.
The right tyres help too
8.5J
15x8's with the right offset will fit without any flared arches.
The right tyres help too
8.5J
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
These are around 8J
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
I can confirm
Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J
Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J
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Yeah sorry, I need to stop posting those pics.1.9TurboVw wrote:I can confirm
Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J
Make me nostalgic
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
No its all good Now just give me those Comp's so I can send you some updated pic'sRoadHaWg wrote:Yeah sorry, I need to stop posting those pics.1.9TurboVw wrote:I can confirm
Stiffer dampers and you will have no rubbing at all on the 8.5J
Make me nostalgic
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
*1.9TurboVw added to hit list*1.9TurboVw wrote:Now just give me those Comp's so I can send you some updated pic's
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
Sweet ride...
So the bottomline is 4k is a good price.
I just needed some clarity before dishing out cash for a job you guys might think its cheaper to complete.
What stiffer dampers can i fit so that there is no rubbing?
I a little new to the modifying scene so I would appreciate all and any help
So the bottomline is 4k is a good price.
I just needed some clarity before dishing out cash for a job you guys might think its cheaper to complete.
What stiffer dampers can i fit so that there is no rubbing?
I a little new to the modifying scene so I would appreciate all and any help
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
Get the rim's and a set of 175/50R15 Tyres and see if it rubs.Kavi wrote:Sweet ride...
So the bottomline is 4k is a good price.
I just needed some clarity before dishing out cash for a job you guys might think its cheaper to complete.
What stiffer dampers can i fit so that there is no rubbing?
I a little new to the modifying scene so I would appreciate all and any help
If it does you need dampening adjustable shocks/Coilovers or a custom made shock from the likes of Ian Glass in Capetown.
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
drive to durban.
rudy here does it for +- R200 per side.
anybody in durban will tell you that rudy know's his ****....
rudy here does it for +- R200 per side.
anybody in durban will tell you that rudy know's his ****....
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Just go old School and use a Coke Bottle DIY LMAO...
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
Kavi wrote:Hi Guys
I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.
So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.
My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.
I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.
make one, you can use a golf1 jack as well or fab one as in picture,
if you use the golf1 jack, take of the swivel foot, weld on a ring on that fits your wheel pcd similar to one on picture, strip of the swivel head on the top and weld mount a adjustable poly roller on in the swivel place and off you go
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A far better use of what is essentially the worlds worst jack...vwpro wrote:Kavi wrote:Hi Guys
I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.
So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.
My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.
I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.
make one, you can use a golf1 jack to make one
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
AKA "The Widow-maker"Neuk wrote:A far better use of what is essentially the worlds worst jack...vwpro wrote:Kavi wrote:Hi Guys
I have been searching for a decent panel beater who can assist me with flaring and rolling the arches.
I am having difficulty in this as the guys who I think are doing a good job want 4k, and the guys who are willing to charge around 2k and do a decent job dont have the time to do my car.
So i ask the multitude, can any of you point me in the right direction.
My car has a 60mm drop with gabriel shorten shocks and rides on 17" rims, the front tyres are sitting just under the arch and is rubbing a little.
I want to roll and flare the arches, slap on a set of decent 15" x 8J and ground the car more.
make one, you can use a golf1 jack to make one
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Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.
Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.
Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.
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RoadHaWg wrote:Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.
Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.
with this device you can roll the lip and stretch the fender a bit, can put quite a bit of force to it, we did some golfs and with 60 drop it clears the tyre side with about 10mm after rolling, just remember if you drive, turn sharp and hit a bump it will rip. it all depends how big you want to flare it and also you will find that 99.9% golf1 ain`t the same on fender gap between driver and passenger side, they differ a bit
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Does anyone in JHB has the same tool has VWpro
i want to roll my fenders on 05 Velociti
i want to roll my fenders on 05 Velociti
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vwpro wrote:RoadHaWg wrote:Ok hang on....There is a huge difference between rolling the lip flat (what you guys are talking about with coke bottles etc) and actually flaring an arch.
Flaring requires cutting, welding, body work, filler and paint. So 4k for that seems good yes.
with this device you can roll the lip and stretch the fender a bit, can put quite a bit of force to it, we did some golfs and with 60 drop it clears the tyre side with about 10mm after rolling, just remember if you drive, turn sharp and hit a bump it will rip. it all depends how big you want to flare it and also you will find that 99.9% golf1 ain`t the same on fender gap between driver and passenger side, they differ a bit
Sure, but when someon says "flared arches" to me I'm thinking this:
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"We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie gods, and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. So we build VDubs son..."
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Re: Flare and Rolls and round arches for MK1
I agree with Roadhawg, Flared and rolled is not the same
and it takes special wheels to make a flare work
and it takes special wheels to make a flare work
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Rudy is a master at what he does!dbndude wrote:drive to durban.
rudy here does it for +- R200 per side.
anybody in durban will tell you that rudy know's his s***e....
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Contact details for rudy?
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Are we talking the same Rudi with the caddy?
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I want the arches flared and rolled, I want the arch pulled out slightly and rolled to remove the "flange line", it must be completely round, I am removing the 17" and slapping on a set of fat 15"x 8J rims(Lenso BSX with extended lip). it should fill the new arches perfectly
What is the contact details for Rudy. I am driving down in 2 weeks, would prefer to do it before that though.
What is the contact details for Rudy. I am driving down in 2 weeks, would prefer to do it before that though.
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For the wheels you fitting you shouldn't need to do any arch work IMHO