Buying a 2011 4.2 FSI Audi A8 - Bad Idea?

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Hello folks

So I came across a 2010 A8 which looks quite well looked after and the pricing is not bad. Now I know that Audi can be very expensive to maintain, what are the issues that I need to look out for? Is this a bad idea? The car has about 85 000 km on the clock and is being sold by a reputable dealer. I am also thinking of taking out a warranty - anyone can recommend one? My other option is going for a Lexus GS350 - but this is about 100k more expensive but newer with half the mileage.

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Definitely Take out a warranty as it’s dangerous buying an Automatic Audi second hand , gearbox Repairs are very costly , I am a car dealer and burnt my fingers on numerous occasions until now I refuse to buy them point blank, previous owners mostly can’t afford to maintain cars and trade cars in because of an upcoming expense. An A8 is very underrated , a machine of note and if it has a full service history ,it’s a buy, Watch out for dash rattles on a Lexus, don’t think Toyota is close to Audi quality yet.
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Thank God I went manual when I bought my audi. Got a semi heart attack reading your comment vtroubleume

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Yeah , when one calls any gearbox repair place and say you have a Multitronic etc making trouble they cut you short and say say you are looking at R28000 plus, sometimes it’s just a faulty solenoid for R14000. But when one drives in heavy traffic everyday a Automatic is very helpful for stress and relaxation , most people “ride” a manual clutch in everyday traffic to edge forward.
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vtroubleume wrote:Yeah , when one calls any gearbox repair place and say you have a Multitronic etc making trouble they cut you short and say say you are looking at R28000 plus, sometimes it’s just a faulty solenoid for R14000. But when one drives in heavy traffic everyday a Automatic is very helpful for stress and relaxation , most people “ride” a manual clutch in everyday traffic to edge forward.
Audi has three different 'automatic' gearboxes on offer, Multitronic is just one of them, don't generalise and give somewhat misleading advice.
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mueneni12 wrote:Hello folks

So I came across a 2010 A8 which looks quite well looked after and the pricing is not bad. Now I know that Audi can be very expensive to maintain, what are the issues that I need to look out for? Is this a bad idea? The car has about 85 000 km on the clock and is being sold by a reputable dealer. I am also thinking of taking out a warranty - anyone can recommend one? My other option is going for a Lexus GS350 - but this is about 100k more expensive but newer with half the mileage.

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mueneni12 wrote:Hello folks

So I came across a 2010 A8 which looks quite well looked after and the pricing is not bad. Now I know that Audi can be very expensive to maintain, what are the issues that I need to look out for? Is this a bad idea? The car has about 85 000 km on the clock and is being sold by a reputable dealer. I am also thinking of taking out a warranty - anyone can recommend one? My other option is going for a Lexus GS350 - but this is about 100k more expensive but newer with half the mileage.

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Neuk wrote:
I am considering a luxo barge to replace my R when the time comes but am well aware of the cost of maintaining such a vehicle. They may be cheap to buy but can be expensive to maintain.[/quote]

That is what I want to understand what exactly am I looking at, I am happy to have a maintenance bill of about 30k a year for such a magnificent vehicle. I see most people that buys these machines are actually automotive people so can fix the cars themselves. I am not one. Also what kind of components will the warranty covers? What are the servicing costs like?
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The a8 4.2 will have quattro which is a totally different gearbox to multitronic and they are actually pretty much trouble free. Do the oil change at 120k km.
If you are a car dealer and don't know the differences between the gearboxes I suggest you try something else or just sell toyotas.

Servicing is not terribly scary , itntake about 10l of oil and the filters will be comparable to most other cars.
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I did not state that it has a multitronic box , sorry just generalised over the audi range albeit dsg, s-tronic, tiptronic, multitronic, quatro , nice to know that the quatro system does not give problems ,in general cars do not last forever, but at least there are plenty non agent gearbox repairers that are fully knowledgeable on these gearboxes in this country .
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Ps: just found in-depth information on google, please ignore previous post
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mueneni12 wrote:
Neuk wrote:I am considering a luxo barge to replace my R when the time comes but am well aware of the cost of maintaining such a vehicle. They may be cheap to buy but can be expensive to maintain.
That is what I want to understand what exactly am I looking at, I am happy to have a maintenance bill of about 30k a year for such a magnificent vehicle. I see most people that buys these machines are actually automotive people so can fix the cars themselves. I am not one. Also what kind of components will the warranty covers? What are the servicing costs like?
You'll have to chat to the companies to see what they will and won't cover but it is generally less and less for older cars, especially those out of their OEM warranty/service plan/maintenance plan. Day to day running and maintenance should be too bad, it is more complicated items like air suspension and electronics that will be an issue. I have seen so many 'bargain' luxo barge type cars that have been parked because the owners picked them up for cheap and then couldn't afford a R60k bill to fix suspension or gearboxes, etc. I am not against luxo barges but know what you are getting in to.
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panic-mechanic wrote:The a8 4.2 will have quattro which is a totally different gearbox to multitronic and they are actually pretty much trouble free. Do the oil change at 120k km.
If you are a car dealer and don't know the differences between the gearboxes I suggest you try something else or just sell toyotas.

Servicing is not terribly scary , itntake about 10l of oil and the filters will be comparable to most other cars.
Yup what panic said

Service on my A8 was around R3k for parts including 8 plugs, 2X5L oil, air fuel and oil filters

The gearboxes are strong and trouble free
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Take a warranty and just service on time, service kits are well priced , gearbox is a ZF unit and very strong.

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vtroubleume wrote:I did not state that it has a multitronic box , sorry just generalised over the audi range albeit dsg, s-tronic, tiptronic, multitronic, quatro , nice to know that the quatro system does not give problems ,in general cars do not last forever, but at least there are plenty non agent gearbox repairers that are fully knowledgeable on these gearboxes in this country .
@ panic, for the Quattro gearbox system , are the gearbox components inside, chain driven, cvt belt driven ,or have mechatronics ,or like standard direct gears with torque converter, would be good to know for future reference.
The boxes are normal torque converters, newer models are dual clutch units , but the high power and torque units use the ZF 8 speed torque converter.

Honestly one of the best boxes with low comebacks and vast application range, everything fro. A 116i to a S8.

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Oh wow that’s cool
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Folks, is anyone here able to check the vehicle history for me? Vin: WAUZZZ4H5BN008230.
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Torque converter boxes are where it's at.

@Neuk, Audi S5 V8 is where it's at.
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mueneni12 wrote:Folks, is anyone here able to check the vehicle history for me? Vin: WAUZZZ4H5BN008230.
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So a month later after getting this baby, still enjoying it. Quite a huge upgrade from the Accord. Will post pics soon.
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mueneni12 wrote:So a month later after getting this baby, still enjoying it. Quite a huge upgrade from the Accord. Will post pics soon.
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mueneni12 wrote:So a month later after getting this baby, still enjoying it. Quite a huge upgrade from the Accord. Will post pics soon.
congrats on the v8.... must say very few of us v8 boys driving around.... Each day I fall more in love with mine the sound is just epic!!!!
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Folks, I am struggling to post the pictures. Anyone able to get the on whattsap and help post? There use to be a link on how to post pictures but I can't find it.
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Stu wrote:
mueneni12 wrote:So a month later after getting this baby, still enjoying it. Quite a huge upgrade from the Accord. Will post pics soon.
congrats on the v8.... must say very few of us v8 boys driving around.... Each day I fall more in love with mine the sound is just epic!!!!
It is a wonderful machine, also very well looked after despite having had two owners. Only gripe I have is lack of USB port, need to see how I can resolve that.
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