OBD2 dongles for 6R polo / vivo

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Post by TechRoss » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:40 pm

Ashveer03 wrote:
Pynoxim wrote:Chinese VCDS 15.7 is R1000
I paid R800

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I honestly didn't know you got cheep cables. So I might not be in for 9k
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Post by Ashveer03 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:08 pm

9k is for an original cable. R800 is for a chinese version which more or less does the same thing.

I think the only difference is that with the original u can seek help from rosstech when needed and u can update the vcds software whenever an update is available.

With the chinese version u cannot update the software because a v15.7 cable will only work with a v15.7 software (and the same with all other versions). I tried downloading the latest vcds and it does not work with the 15.7 cable. Also tried with v12 and v14. Im not sure with the originals, but it most likey can be updated and used with the same cable otherwise nobody in their right mind would pay 9k each time theres an update.

http://shop.hexdiagnostics.co.za/index. ... lter_id=12 thats a link to hex microsystems, they are original vcds dealers in SA, there are cheaper original cables but their interfaces are limited.

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Post by panic-mechanic » Thu Apr 06, 2017 6:48 am

The original ross cable basically has a hardware interface that unlocks the genuine software. They send out updates almost once a week at times and it automatically updates firmware on the cable and the latest versions of the software with the newest fault codes.
That chinese cable you buy does not have that and some guy has hacked the software locking on that specific old version of the software. Ie stolen it and sold it to you. That is why your software fails when you update it because the cheap stupid cable does not have the real interface capability.
Like any other crime you perpetuate it by buying that stuff and I have a problem with people recommending it here.
Hex manufactures cables for ross tech so that is an original product. Yes I understand it is expensive. If you are a private person there is a cheaper version that is restricted to three cars for (R2950) and for 10 cars at (R3950) if you own that many. And if own 10 vw's sure you can afford that.
If you are a workshop and need the open capability really just go buy the proper real thing or Do you also use cheap chinese sockets and strip all the bolts you undo?
When you own the original the current version of the software is 17.2
Buying and using hacked cables is exactly the same as using unlicensed software and it is theft from the company or person that has gone to the trouble of developing it.
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Post by TechRoss » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:04 am

I think this is why the OBDEleven fits in so nicely.

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Post by panic-mechanic » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:15 am

Yes at 54 euro it is relatively cheap and seems to do it all.
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Post by TechRoss » Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:20 am

panic-mechanic wrote:Yes at 54 euro it is relatively cheap and seems to do it all.
Also for the average man on the street the app method is probably a lot safer than long coding.

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Post by georgie » Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:22 am

Shot for all the input here guys!

OBDEleven seems to be the way to go. Will just get a cheap 7" tab to use for scanning. The Lenovo's are just over R1000 on takealot.
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Post by Abnormal » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:47 am

Maybe a group buy?
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Post by panic-mechanic » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:53 am

The only issue I see with obdeleven is the whole credits to do anything with it story. Uses credits to do coding and sri reset etc.
it's like those free games you get that suddenly when you are hooked require you to do in app purchases to continue.
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Post by georgie » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:19 am

Abnormal wrote:Maybe a group buy?
Ordered mine already, didnt want to wait until the rand gets any weaker :violin:
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Post by georgie » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:20 am

panic-mechanic wrote:The only issue I see with obdeleven is the whole credits to do anything with it story. Uses credits to do coding and sri reset etc.
it's like those free games you get that suddenly when you are hooked require you to do in app purchases to continue.
True :lol:

All I really need to do is read and clear codes though.
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Post by TechRoss » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:21 am

Abnormal wrote:Maybe a group buy?
I was also thinking this especially if we do the DHL thing at an extra 50 Euros

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Post by BoraMad » Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:46 am

georgie wrote:
panic-mechanic wrote:The only issue I see with obdeleven is the whole credits to do anything with it story. Uses credits to do coding and sri reset etc.
it's like those free games you get that suddenly when you are hooked require you to do in app purchases to continue.
True :lol:

All I really need to do is read and clear codes though.
Not true,

Credits are only required when using the "APP Feature" which is basically one click programming. if you know what the long coding values are you are able to perform the changes without credits.

You get free credits for just opening the application on a daily basis or credits can be purchased.

Scans\Coding\Live Data\Adaptations\Output test\ does not require credits.
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Post by sbu.mah » Thu Apr 06, 2017 3:46 pm

BoraMad wrote:
georgie wrote:
panic-mechanic wrote:The only issue I see with obdeleven is the whole credits to do anything with it story. Uses credits to do coding and sri reset etc.
it's like those free games you get that suddenly when you are hooked require you to do in app purchases to continue.
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All I really need to do is read and clear codes though.
Not true,

Credits are only required when using the "APP Feature" which is basically one click programming. if you know what the long coding values are you are able to perform the changes without credits.

You get free credits for just opening the application on a daily basis or credits can be purchased.

Scans\Coding\Live Data\Adaptations\Output test\ does not require credits.
Agree - you don't need credits if you go the coding route instead of one click app (which is created to make it easy for novice). And you can collect 5 credits everyday

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Post by Ashveer03 » Thu Apr 06, 2017 5:22 pm

Panic, I noticed from all your replies that instead of helping a person and advising them better, u criticize them and make them feel like total **** instead. I have no intention of causing an argument with u, but its really pissing me off. And I would prefer that u dont quote me in ur comments.

What tools I choose to use does not concern u or anybody else. I bought the cable from a registered company, I did not steal it or buy a "hacked" product from the street, so I dont really give a **** whether u have a problem with it or not.

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Post by Neuk » Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:19 pm

Ashveer03 wrote:Panic, I noticed from all your replies that instead of helping a person and advising them better, u criticize them and make them feel like total **** instead. I have no intention of causing an argument with u, but its really pissing me off. And I would prefer that u dont quote me in ur comments.

What tools I choose to use does not concern u or anybody else. I bought the cable from a registered company, I did not steal it or buy a "hacked" product from the street, so I dont really give a **** whether u have a problem with it or not.

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Post by panic-mechanic » Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:55 pm

You bought a properly stolen hacked cable otherwise it would work on the latest updates of the software which as I stated is 17.1
If you cannot use anything other than ver 15.2 as supplied by the hacker then it is not an original hex or ross cable. There are only two places where you buy the genuine cable and that is hex diagnostics or ross tech. Whether the cable you bought was sold by a registered company as displayed on the internet or e-bay or wherever, it is a hacked product with stolen software.
I have been around the world for a while, have seen lots of stuff and I am actually a computer programmer which is why it pees me off when people think it is Ok to use hacked software / programs as there are people that spend many many many hours of their lives to make stuff like that work.
You really don't have to care or give a heck what I think - I am just stating my opinion just like you are stating yours.
You are recommending people to buy a product which is stolen from a manufacturer and my opinion simply is that it is not right.
I don't care what you think about that.
And I am glad that you think I never help anybody but only critisize everybody. dude I am part of the reason this site exist for people like you to use and I might have helped one or two people in the last 15 odd years this version and about 4 more years before this one existed on something called a bullitin board.
I have seen the same stuff come and go many time over - I answer the same old questions every year over and over and over and if you think I am a grumpy old man you are quite right. But one gets a bit tired of seeing people come here and saying hey - go get this or do that when it is clearly not the right thing.
But yeah hey WTF do I know anyway.
Everybody please go buy a knockoff cable with cracked vcds it is the right thing to do. Maybe you can provide the link so they don't even have to search for themselves. After that we are all going to storm into the street and do some illegal street racing. It's all good.
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Post by Ashveer03 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:10 pm

As i said, I didnt want to make this a huge issue.

I do understand that its wrong and illegal to use pirated software and stuff like that, but what u fail to realize is that not everybody can afford spending 3-9k on a cable that will be used seldomly. Anyway, I get the point that u are against piracy.

U probably helped 1000's of people in however long u have been here, you could be the reason this site exists but that doesnt mean its ok to make fun of people who are asking for help. In my opinion thats worse than having a pirated vcds cable. Maybe Im wrong, but my idea of having or being apart of a forum is to help others and make new friends because we all share the same passion.

Anyway I shared my opinion, Im done.

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Post by Choc07 » Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:35 pm

Dude you're digging yourself a hole , I haven't been here long and I don't know much but what I do know is that when I asked for help Panic was eager to give me advice and in every post of his I have read, he has never even somewhat made fun of people for not knowing something , so I suggest any personal issues get sorted out either in pm's or with admin but keep it off the threads on tech please.
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Post by panic-mechanic » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:24 pm

I rarely make fun of somebody that ask a question and I was not making fun of you either, I was pointing out that you are perpetuating and advising that people support piracy. So basically yes my recommendation is buy the obdeleven but don't tell people to go buy chinese pirate versions of vcds cables. I have paid dearly for vcds cables in my life and I very much understand people not having money. And sure when you are a private person and have to buy a pirate cable then don't go advertise it everywhere and if you own and run a business then really do the right thing. If nobody does , that place might disappear one day.
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Post by TechRoss » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:17 am

Nobody has mentioned the Carista app. Does not need a dedicated adapter and if you have a working ODB2 adapter it should work. I tried it and looked like it would work but just didn't have the balls to make any changes with it. Still would like the 11 rather.

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Post by sbu.mah » Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:29 am

TechRoss wrote:Nobody has mentioned the Carista app. Does not need a dedicated adapter and if you have a working ODB2 adapter it should work. I tried it and looked like it would work but just didn't have the balls to make any changes with it. Still would like the 11 rather.

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I've tried the carista app, and you can only use limited functionality with the generic obd2 the rest of the functionality will require a dedicated carista obd2.

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Post by georgie » Tue May 02, 2017 11:04 am

Got my OBDEleven on Friday. Took about 3 weeks on free delivery option including all these public holidays in between.

Works great :hurray:

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