Caravelle T5 R/H rear sliding door limit error - Fixed
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Caravelle T5 R/H rear sliding door limit error - Fixed
number of the replaced door seal and sensor.
Door fixed and closing from remote and button on dash again.
Door fixed and closing from remote and button on dash again.
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Take the car to duttons sasolburg....speak to liaan...
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Tell him aslam told you to speak to him
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Thanks Aslam. Will do that.Aslam_MK4 wrote:Take the car to duttons sasolburg....speak to liaan...
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Did a few checks to find the cable routing. Connector under driver seat has 3 wires, white, brown and blue. Top of door where wires pass over on bracket in to the door is only brown and blue, this the white is a common somewhere on the slider on top. Need to strip it to verify.
I found that the door can close from the switch in the dash. Press once and press again and hold down until door is fully closed. The wire passing through the rubber (also called the trap sensor wire) is there to stop the door from closing if it touches something.
My theory now is that the door open limit on the micro switch on the lock is not latching and then preventing the door to be able to close as it does not see the open limit or the trap sensor wiring is open circuit.
By performing the inside button pressing twice and hold till the door is fully closed, the control unit overrides the trap sensor in the rubber and think there is nothing in the way of the door (no hands in the way as hand or finger is used to press the close button).
Trying to find a wiring diagram for the switch wiring now.
I found that the door can close from the switch in the dash. Press once and press again and hold down until door is fully closed. The wire passing through the rubber (also called the trap sensor wire) is there to stop the door from closing if it touches something.
My theory now is that the door open limit on the micro switch on the lock is not latching and then preventing the door to be able to close as it does not see the open limit or the trap sensor wiring is open circuit.
By performing the inside button pressing twice and hold till the door is fully closed, the control unit overrides the trap sensor in the rubber and think there is nothing in the way of the door (no hands in the way as hand or finger is used to press the close button).
Trying to find a wiring diagram for the switch wiring now.
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Armed with a multimeter today and started to measure for continuity between the sensor (transponder) and the Yellow and blue plug under the drivers seat. Walla.........Open circuit.
Two options now: (1) order a new one from VW (Part no: 7H0843436Q @ R2763 + VAT) and install or (2) Replace wiring (Rewire) with same gauge wiring as existing from the bottom of drivers seat to the sensor end inside the door rubber.
Wires are most probably broken inside where the wires fold over on to the bracket towards the door as this is where there is flexible movement each time the door is operated.
One side clip into the socket at the roller and other end is passing through the door post to below the drivers seat.
Part No: 7H0843436Q
And 7H0843786H
Two options now: (1) order a new one from VW (Part no: 7H0843436Q @ R2763 + VAT) and install or (2) Replace wiring (Rewire) with same gauge wiring as existing from the bottom of drivers seat to the sensor end inside the door rubber.
Wires are most probably broken inside where the wires fold over on to the bracket towards the door as this is where there is flexible movement each time the door is operated.
One side clip into the socket at the roller and other end is passing through the door post to below the drivers seat.
Part No: 7H0843436Q
And 7H0843786H
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If you got vag-com you could also try the read measure value blocks as that will tell you whats reading and what its reading. The pinch protection rubber and wire harness at top is what usually gives a problem.
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I don't have vag-com to read values. I'm off to work in Brazil for 5 weeks. This have to wait till then now.g60 golf wrote:If you got vag-com you could also try the read measure value blocks as that will tell you whats reading and what its reading. The pinch protection rubber and wire harness at top is what usually gives a problem.
The dealership where I took it ordered 2 x the protection rubber and wire harness and could not get it sorted.
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Dealerships generally don't have time (and skills in some cases) for proper fault finding. They normally look for the obvious fault and want to replace item. Goodluck with your fix, seem to be applying common sense approach, lack of which is normally the issue.....PapaJo wrote:The dealership where I took it ordered 2 x the protection rubber and wire harness and could not get it sorted.
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Howie-WP wrote:Dealerships generally don't have time (and skills in some cases) for proper fault finding. They normally look for the obvious fault and want to replace item. Goodluck with your fix, seem to be applying common sense approach, lack of which is normally the issue.....PapaJo wrote:The dealership where I took it ordered 2 x the protection rubber and wire harness and could not get it sorted.
Will find someone with vag-com to help me to identify where the fault is.
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If you need pointers shout.
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Thanks, will contact you mid-September when I´m back in SA.g60 golf wrote:If you need pointers shout.
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Aslam_MK4 wrote:Take the car to duttons sasolburg....speak to liaan...
I only get great service from them....
Tell him aslam told you to speak to him
Thanks, Aslam, I spoke to Liaan on Friday and took Caravelle in this this morning. Got a call now that the problem was found and a replacement rubber with sensor will be there tomorrow. Great service from Liaan and Morne. Got updates and calls throughout the morning on what was found and done sofar.
Picture of the fault VW The Glen could not find in 13 working days....
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Glad they could sort you out....
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Me too. Happy it is sorted now.Howie-WP wrote:
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Happy, very happy now and thanks again for the referal. I know where my 7R, Caravelle and daughters Polo will go for their services from now on.Aslam_MK4 wrote:Glad they could sort you out....
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Good to see it's resolved. Some dealerships really just do a service and anything technical over that just get blank looks...
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Agreed, some only know how to change the oil and fit filters. I'm glad this is sorted now by people that can actually do the technical stuff.Belix wrote:Good to see it's resolved. Some dealerships really just do a service and anything technical over that just get blank looks...