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Intermittent White Smoke on MK6 GTi??!!

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Hi Guys,

I need some advice.

My brother purchased a Golf 6 GTi 3 weeks ago and has had endless issues from day one!

The problem now is that it has this intermittent white smoke problem. I dont know how else to describe it. I have driven behind him several times, at full throttle there is no smoke, idle no smoke, overrun no smoke, cold start no smoke.

Then just randomly,there will be white smoke on overrun and then on idle at a robot for a few seconds. So much so, that you can actually smell the smoke inside the car.

The car has been to VW 5 times now! And they cannot find the issue. It had an intake, DP and software but now all tat has been removed.

VW have checked everything, compression test was fine and so was the PCV Valve...

What else could be causing this issue?

Its a 2011 6 GTi with 41 000kms on it.
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Turbo seal?
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Could be a turbo seal that's letting some oil into the intake on occasion. Have you checked the PCV system for leaks and/or blockages?
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Change the tappet cover and report back..
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Solo786 wrote:Change the tappet cover and report back..
Surely you mean tappet cover gasket?
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No, i mean the entire tappet cover..
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Solo786 wrote:No, i mean the entire tappet cover..
care to explain why?
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The car has been to VW McCarthy in Durban, 5 times as of today.

They claim that there is nothing wrong with the car. All the usual suspects, such as Turbo seals have been checked.
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PoLonY wrote:
Solo786 wrote:No, i mean the entire tappet cover..
care to explain why?
I agree, please shed some light?

Because my brother is ready to cancel the deal now. This is BS :bang:
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rear pcv which is built into the tappet cover has a check valve in it, this check valve fails sometimes and when enough oil builds up it pushes oil into the turbo.

a quick test - with car idling open the oil cap and lift it slightly, if you can feel a vaccum sucking it back down, then its likely that theres a pcv problem - front or rear is for you to find out.

A mk5 with this problem was fixed with a new tappet cover as the rear pcv was shot. Depending on how accurate vw's diagnosis of your front pcv was, will decide if its also your rear pcv thats gone
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Solo786 wrote:rear pcv which is built into the tappet cover has a check valve in it, this check valve fails sometimes and when enough oil builds up it pushes oil into the turbo.

a quick test - with car idling open the oil cap and lift it slightly, if you can feel a vaccum sucking it back down, then its likely that theres a pcv problem - front or rear is for you to find out.

A mk5 with this problem was fixed with a new tappet cover as the rear pcv was shot. Depending on how accurate vw's diagnosis of your front pcv was, will decide if its also your rear pcv thats gone
Ah i see, thanks for that info
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Smok3X wrote:The car has been to VW McCarthy in Durban, 5 times as of today.

They claim that there is nothing wrong with the car. All the usual suspects, such as Turbo seals have been checked.
I found the problem
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Wealth of knowledge Solo has.

Thanks Solo, will keep this in mind for future.
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Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
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Smok3X wrote:Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
Spending R300k on a 2011 model is just ridiculous. Tell him to search some more, Retail value on a 2011 DSG is probably around R240k now.
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I would've taken it back too, you don't wanna deal with that just after buying a car. I had an issue with my A3 Sportback a few years ago. It needed a cylinder head replacement straight after buying it. Luckily for Audi Freeway Plan...
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Smok3X wrote:Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
Spending R300k on a 2011 model is just ridiculous. Tell him to search some more, Retail value on a 2011 DSG is probably around R240k now.
Depends on condition, extras, mods etc. I sold my 2011 Manual for R280k two weeks ago.
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ryanrich wrote:I would've taken it back too, you don't wanna deal with that just after buying a car. I had an issue with my A3 Sportback a few years ago. It needed a cylinder head replacement straight after buying it. Luckily for Audi Freeway Plan...
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Smok3X wrote:Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
Spending R300k on a 2011 model is just ridiculous. Tell him to search some more, Retail value on a 2011 DSG is probably around R240k now.
Depends on condition, extras, mods etc. I sold my 2011 Manual for R280k two weeks ago.
:eek: You lucky bastard :hi: . I got R235k :sad: and my car was spotless, granted I was in a hurry and the fact that the engine was replaced didn't help :bang: . I shall never pay more than what the book says though.
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Titleists wrote:
Smok3X wrote:Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
Spending R300k on a 2011 model is just ridiculous. Tell him to search some more, Retail value on a 2011 DSG is probably around R240k now.
We are indian bud, we never pay more! :lol: :lol: I said "almost"

It was R260k for a 2011 Manual with 41k on the clock. Plus the OE 6R LED Tail lights.

Anyway... He is looking for another one... anyone have a 6 GTi for sale with similar specs and price? :hi:
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Smok3X wrote:
Titleists wrote:
Smok3X wrote:Sadly... all this drama has just been a bit too much and my brother will be cancelling the deal tomorrow.

To spend almost 300k on a car and have it go to VW 5 times in 3 weeks is just ridiculous.
Spending R300k on a 2011 model is just ridiculous. Tell him to search some more, Retail value on a 2011 DSG is probably around R240k now.
We are indian bud, we never pay more! :lol: :lol: I said "almost"

It was R260k for a 2011 Manual with 41k on the clock. Plus the OE 6R LED Tail lights.

Anyway... He is looking for another one... anyone have a 6 GTi for sale with similar specs and price? :hi:
Plenty around bud,

Just keep a look out. Good luck with finding one.
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So what was the issue
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I’m having the same problem with mine I changed turbo have after it’s tuned apr (3” stainless turbo back cat less exhaust forged pub plate with catch can also has apr carbino cold air intake and red top coil packs like I said I swapped out turbo and still get clouds of white smoke from burning oil at random times then other times it will smoke on cold start and I rpm driving I’m lost on what else to do please help
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Solo takes the prize here , but a similiar issue I had was residual oil in the intercooler that seemed to release a bit into the system at random times
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