MP9 idle motor on xms

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 9:54 am

Ok finally got around to giving this a try and guess what - it works just fine. Seems the idle motor is a pwm device and it works just hunky dory being controlled by the 2 wire idle setup on the xms4and 5. There is a white and black wire on the tps plug. Black for the 12v and white to the aux for the idle motor. Think they are oins 1 and 2
I also found a magnetic pickup form Gw for the agg and ady blocks and most likely abf too that fits with no mods and is R385. Will post their part number for it tonight. Got the box at home.

GolfII GTi King · Post by **GolfII GTi King** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:17 am

WOW!!
Goodbye MP9 ECU!!

Smok3X · Post by **Smok3X** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:27 am

Well Done!!!

MhVW · Post by **MhVW** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:07 am

That is excellent news!

Post by **Killerwatt** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:20 am

Respect Panic! Now hundreds of cars will finally idle property at the robots!

Velofox · Post by **Velofox** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:49 am

there is a guy that can do this with dicktator too

Jetta2 · Post by **Jetta2** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:54 am

Very nice!!!!!!!!
I have to try this out on the Jetta. Will do some wiring when I get back from holiday.

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:55 am

I'm sure you can do it with dictator yes

Torker · Post by **Torker** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:00 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:I'm sure you can do it with dictator yes

Mine worked with Dicktator.

You will have an opportunity to practise your tuning skills on my idle setup in the near future...

Post by **RoadHaWg** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:59 pm

Sounds fun.

I got a little naughty with mine and moved the base timing reference by 5 degrees. I guess this has the effect of increasing the timing EVERYWHERE by 5 deg.....but it feels great. No pinging or anything, idle is WAY better and is all round running great. So I wont need the MP9 motor for a while.

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:27 pm

Yes base timing will move it all.

Fran · Post by **Fran** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:12 pm

Sorry, but what is pwm?

Jetta2 · Post by **Jetta2** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:15 pm

Fran wrote:Sorry, but what is pwm?

Pulse Width Modulation.

Post by **RoadHaWg** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:32 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:Yes base timing will move it all.

MORE FUN!!!

joggiep · Post by **joggiep** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:38 pm

RoadHaWg wrote:
panic-mechanic wrote:Yes base timing will move it all.
MORE FUN!!!

True but just be careful to mutch timing can end in tears. High RPM ping under load even in a NA car can go nasty pretty quickly.

VWicked · Post by **VWicked** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:41 pm

That Magnetic pickup you speak off, is that the internal type that fits on the block of the ADY?

I need to make a bracket for mine on the abf as there is no power steering bracket like originally to hold the sensor in the correct position. Any ideas?

Post by **RoadHaWg** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:58 pm

joggiep wrote:
RoadHaWg wrote:
panic-mechanic wrote:Yes base timing will move it all.
MORE FUN!!!
True but just be careful to mutch timing can end in tears. High RPM ping under load even in a NA car can go nasty pretty quickly.

Yeah I hear ya. I dont rev the **** out of it, only hit the 6k limiter once ever. It just feels nice and angry right now. I actually have a theory that when I went through that massive storm last year sometime and got water in the dizzy and it was backfiring like mad as I limped home that maybe the dizzy moved or something like that. It never felt quite the same after that.....but since changing the timing a bit it feels like it did when it first got tuned.

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:21 pm

You can always bring it back to the dyno for a checkup.
Yes Jashan internal pickup. Why mot just fot the back end of the power steering bracket even though the rest of it ain't there.

Ry@n · Post by **Ry@n** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:22 pm

panic you legend!

it just keeps getting better and better!.....

MhVW · Post by **MhVW** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:36 pm

I would realy like my little Gotech Mini-X to also control the MP9 throttlebody idle control motor.
I wonder if anyone managed to get that working, as the gotech also has an 2-wire idle control function...

VWicked · Post by **VWicked** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:45 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:You can always bring it back to the dyno for a checkup.
Yes Jashan internal pickup. Why mot just fot the back end of the power steering bracket even though the rest of it ain't there.

erm cos the bracket went onto the 1.6 motor. I need another bracket, do you have one?

Curryboygp · Post by **Curryboygp** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:48 pm

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jan 12, 2012 3:49 pm

Yes most likely Jashan.

VWicked · Post by **VWicked** » Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Sweet, no hurry yet, but motor is in the car now. I will arrange a drive out to you for it soon..

4agedub · Post by **4agedub** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:08 pm

MhVW wrote:I would realy like my little Gotech Mini-X to also control the MP9 throttlebody idle control motor.
I wonder if anyone managed to get that working, as the gotech also has an 2-wire idle control function...

You can wire the idle control through GPO2. The idle motor is pin1 and pin2 on the throttle body. It does take a bit of time to get setup right, but works good.

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