my car swings but wont start
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my car swings but wont start
hi guys i need help:-) ive got a 96 golf 3 gti 2.0l 8v with gotech mfi management...few days back was driving around and the car just switched of at the stop street ..it kept on swinging but never started...ive replaced the coil,plug leads,management relay,checked fuses,new distributer cap and etc. and stil not starting plz help!
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Have you tried changing the rotar? My golf did something similar when I had it. changed the rotar and it started on the first swing.
Hows your fuel pump?
Hows your fuel pump?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
are you getting spark, fuel etc
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Like above... You are shooting in the dark by simply replacing stuff and spending money on stuff that you have no idea if they are broken or not.UDC wrote:are you getting spark, fuel etc
Make sure you get spark... make sure that the timing is correct and make sure that you are getting fuel. If those 3 are there the car should start.
Do you have a laptop ? can you connect it to the management and is it seeing the management and is the management seeing your inputs ?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
hey guys...thanks for the reply i am getting spark and fuel...i never check the timing i will do that hopefully my friend know...yes i got a laptop ,i've got the software but do not know how to use it..but it does see the mangement and and etc
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Re: my car swings but wont start
how do set timing when car is not idling or starting???
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Why would the timing suddenly go out for no reason? What makes you suspect that the timing is out?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Engines don't work with fairey dust... they work on science.
One or more of the things your engine needs to fire are missing.
One or more of the things your engine needs to fire are missing.
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Set your timing marks to TDC and the rotor pointing to Cylinder 1, that will be close enough to get the car to start. Check the timing 1st before you undo anything.Luke29610 wrote:how do set timing when car is not idling or starting???
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Rietbok wrote:Why would the timing suddenly go out for no reason? What makes you suspect that the timing is out?
He was driving and all of a sudden it stopped and didn't whant to start again.. could be that the cambelt slipped a couple of teeth/ Timing out car won't start. It happens.
If there is fuel and there is spark then there is something wrong with the timing.. First have a look at the timing marks like Torker said then if that is correct you'll need to have a look at what the management is doing.
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Re: my car swings but wont start
True, it could be timing, but wow something odd must be wrong for the timing to just change on it's own. Cam Belt stretched, worn badly, Dizzy not tightened.... But if everything is in working order your timing should not change on it's own.
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Re: my car swings but wont start
hey guys was checking the cam belt and etc...when i try starting the cams pulley is not turning...any ideas why?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Loose crank pulley? Maybe the key sheared off on the crank nose? You have to pull of the covers to see whats happening on the pulley.Luke29610 wrote:hey guys was checking the cam belt and etc...when i try starting the cams pulley is not turning...any ideas why?
Last edited by Torker on Tue Jun 21, 2011 1:42 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: my car swings but wont start
does the cam pulley have a cam belt on it?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
yes it does have a belt on it
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then most likely what Torker says
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Rietbok wrote:True, it could be timing, but wow something odd must be wrong for the timing to just change on it's own.
Luke29610 wrote:hey guys was checking the cam belt and etc...when i try starting the cams pulley is not turning...any ideas why?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Take the cam covers off .. I agree it's most likly the key that is buggered.. There was a Jig floating around in the club to drill and insert dowels on the crank nose.
PS to get that crank nut loose is a b%$ch at times !
PS to get that crank nut loose is a b%$ch at times !
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Re: my car swings but wont start
lol... we were both right.joggiep wrote:Rietbok wrote:True, it could be timing, but wow something odd must be wrong for the timing to just change on it's own.Luke29610 wrote:hey guys was checking the cam belt and etc...when i try starting the cams pulley is not turning...any ideas why?
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Re: my car swings but wont start
hey guys thought i'll keep your updated...well my cam belt is filpn damaged its missing couple teeth n very greasy ...gonna change it today and se what happens...thanks again guys for the help!
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Re: my car swings but wont start
With any luck you'll have no bent valves but don't bet your salary on it....
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Re: my car swings but wont start
ahh replaced cam belt and it....STARTED!!! MAX HAPPY just have to do timing abd etc
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Re: my car swings but wont start
Great news!!! Well done!
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Re: my car swings but wont start
thanks Rietbok
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