Buy or not? - golf GT

Post Reply
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

Morning all

So I’ve been half looking out for a GT. Seen a lot of modified 2-doors, but I’m looking for something more stock GT.

This one has popped up, assuming it's still available after this post:
- So what sort of pricing would be fair?
- Is there anything I should look out for? What are common rust areas apart from the ones in the pictures?
- What engine is that? The ad just says it’s a 2l
- Looks like a few bits missing - accelerator pedal and front spoiler for starters. Also mine had a wolfsburg wheel, not sure if that was standard.
- Any other comments appreciated! :hug:

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

Looks like a 2E 2L converted to carb. Looks like there might've been a fire in the engine bay at some point.

Are they fishing for offers or do they have a figure in mind.

Lotsa work to do there.
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

They want R70k, which seemed way too high to me.
I missed the carb completely- I wonder how long it’s been driving around without an air box.
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

70k? In that condition? And they are being serious?

Why not just buy my red one for 300k and finish it to your liking?

:lol: :lol:
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

I suppose people get hopeful Then again if that’s his asking price he probably won’t take half that
Appreciate the feedback though.
User avatar
Neuk
Treasurer
Treasurer
Posts: 48972
Joined: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 pm
Car Make: Volkswagen
Car Model: Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
Membership No: 806
Location: Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Neuk »

I wouldn't pay R70k, it is a bit too scrappy and unoriginal for me at that price point.
Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2014 VW Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window

Previous Garage:
Roxy: 2015 VW Golf R
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

Gutter rust is a bi-atch to fix properly, and that rust around the bottom windshield is also a bit of a concern. Nothing seems too far to fix though.
I wouldn't pay more than 20k as it stands now.

Having said that, if you're willing to spend 70k to buy the car then I look forward to the restore thread.

Always around to help restore another 2 door :hi:
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
Greenz
Lieutenant
Posts: 1670
Joined: Thu Jan 02, 2014 2:26 pm
Car Make: Vw,Chevrolet
Car Model: 2015 Spark LS
Location: Pietermaritzburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Greenz »

At that price i have seen better.The vintage car group on FB is a good place to look.
-2015 Chevrolet Spark LS
User avatar
PapaJo
Brigadier
Posts: 6506
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:01 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: '16 Golf 7R, 86 Caddy AUM 20VT
Membership No: missing
Location: Vaal Triangle SA or Offshore

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by PapaJo »

EX-DOHCTOR wrote: Tue May 04, 2021 3:57 pm Gutter rust is a bi-atch to fix properly, and that rust around the bottom windshield is also a bit of a concern. Nothing seems too far to fix though.
I wouldn't pay more than 20k as it stands now.

Having said that, if you're willing to spend 70k to buy the car then I look forward to the restore thread.

Always around to help restore another 2 door :hi:
Fully agree with EX-DOHCTOR about the rust areas. Other areas of concern to look for rust is in the boot area, rear boot lock and in corners of boot from above rear lights all the way down to under the carpet, Check rear arch lower back corners for any filler below bumper line especially since the black plastic fender arches are fitted, check under body in the areas where the lower control arms bolt down to the body and the jack points behind the front wheels, check brackets on lower firewall where steering rack is bolted down as the tend to crack there, check condition on bottom of inner lip on doors as the draining holes are getting clogged up and bottom of doors are rusting away, Same goes for the front bottom corners on doors due to this, firewall area where clutch cable passes through firewall (was it repaired or have some cracks or a loose plate).

Does the original papers say GT? Bit suspicious with the changed steering wheel and as far as I can recall there was some distinct changes inside on dash trim too to be different than the std Golfs of that era. Might be a 2 door mk1 1100 where the cambelt side mounting was changed and welded to accommodate the engine mounting. Check for any reweld or different looking welds here. The discoloration in engine bay could be due to a fire or just age, but would need to be checked through though.

As this has been resprayed and showing signs of rust all over, it is likely that you may find some body filler along the way hidden under the paint.
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

Thanks for the heads up guys, and for pointing out areas or rust.
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

I think this guy is just trying to capitalize on the crazy asking prices people are commanding at the moment. I've seen some mental prices being asked since COVID started.

Have you gone to look at the car yet?
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

Seems so - I saw a rusty GT for 130k

No, seller only available after hours and it’s somewhat of a drive, I want to make sure there is enough light, so will see if the car is unsold on the weekend.
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

Yeah, definitely go when you can see it clearly.

Lets assume all goes well and you can grip it for a reasonable price. What are your plans for it?
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

I’d like to do what you and Kirpals did, take it down to the shell, maybe even media blast it if it does not cost silly money, repair, repaint, get it back to how mine was - mostly stock, stock stickers, bumpers etc. Don’t mind what engine or gearbox really, and suitable wheels, a bit of low but not to mess with ride.

Trouble is I’d like to do as much as I can myself, but I have the technical skills of an aardvark, with the no tools to boot.
User avatar
Gts88
Cadet
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:09 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Citi
Location: Steelpoort, Limpopo

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Gts88 »

....pretty sure the GT had the centre console like GTi with the 3 Gauges....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
VAG Fan
Lieutenant
Posts: 1175
Joined: Tue Mar 15, 2016 1:54 pm
Location: Pretoria

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by VAG Fan »

Yes, the GT and GTS had the 3-gauge console, plus the Wolfsburg steering wheel. It looks like someone has removed both. That's half the interior allure gone.

My GTS had the same colour and upholstery as this one. It was pretty much original (except Keihin carb, after the Pierburg Solex 2B5 failed). It had some rust in the same spots as can be seen above, but much less than this one. We had to sell in a bit of a hurry, so we let it go a couple of years ago for about 17k. We might have hunted for a buyer at 25-30k, but didn't have the time.

For the car shown here, I wouldn't pay more than 20k.
Mark R.
- - - - - - - - - -
2004 VW Golf, type 1J, AHF, 275k (2016-current) --- daily
1990 VW Fox, type 16, HM, 285k (2005-current) --- Ex's daily
Previous:
1992 Audi 500 SE, type C4, AAR (2001-2020) --- nice while it lasted
1983 VW Golf GTS, type 17, FR (1992-2005) --- most fun car I've ever had
1978 Audi 100 GLS 5E, type 43, WC (1991-92) --- died in the side of a Rekord who cut me off
- - - - - - - - - -
EX-DOHCTOR
Field Marshal
Posts: 13359
Joined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 12:25 am
Car Make: VW
Car Model: 2014 Jetta 6 TDi DSG.
Membership No: 712
Location: Bryanston, Johannesburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by EX-DOHCTOR »

Belix wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:54 pm I’d like to do what you and Kirpals did, take it down to the shell, maybe even media blast it if it does not cost silly money, repair, repaint, get it back to how mine was - mostly stock, stock stickers, bumpers etc. Don’t mind what engine or gearbox really, and suitable wheels, a bit of low but not to mess with ride.

Trouble is I’d like to do as much as I can myself, but I have the technical skills of an aardvark, with the no tools to boot.
Awesome! Any color preference?

I've done a lot of things on my restoration journey I never expected to do myself. You build up the tools and learn the skills as you go.

I do wish I had been able to spend more time on it these last 3 years though. Caught up nicely recently. Shes gearing up to go for upholstery soon.

Just make sure you have a good place to park and work on it. That's half the battle won. I lost 4 years of my project due to fighting to get my garages built :bang:

If you get stuck, ask for help. I've been trying to do it all myself and not ask for help, probably why I am still not finished :lol: :lol: :lol:
2014 - VW Jetta 6 - 1.6 TDi DSG - Moonrock Silver.
2000 - VW Golf 3.5 Cabrio - 2.0 - Moonlight Blue Pearl Metallic.
1980 - VW MK1 GT - 1.8 Carb - Rallye Red http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=153861
1971 - Mitsubishi Colt 1100F - https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 1&t=220503
MK1 Build Register: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... 1&t=192835

Racing is meant for the RACE track - deal with it...
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

Gts88 wrote:....pretty sure the GT had the centre console like GTi with the 3 Gauges....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Mine did not have the centre gauges, I remember driving half the country getting a set, and not being able to pay the ridiculous R690 VW wanted for an oil pressure sender unit. Drove to middleburg to get second hand one, only to have it shoot out on the highway spewing oil everywhere. Shoved some cloth into the hole, and Had to buy a five litre oil and top up every couple km to get home…
And then discovered oil had got into the clutch.
Ah good times ImageImage
Senna
Captain
Posts: 2691
Joined: Tue Dec 01, 2009 11:43 pm
Car Make: VW,BMW
Car Model: BMW 325 IS 5 GTI, 14 2K Caddy
Membership No: 3101
Location: Port Elizabeth

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Senna »

GT never had the 3 gauges or the Wolfsburg steering wheel.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Image
User avatar
Gts88
Cadet
Posts: 90
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 4:09 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Citi
Location: Steelpoort, Limpopo

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Gts88 »

Senna wrote:GT never had the 3 gauges or the Wolfsburg steering wheel.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I had a white GT in 86 with both....


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
User avatar
Belix
Lieutenant-Colonel
Posts: 4159
Joined: Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:44 pm
Car Make: VW
Car Model: Passat B8
Membership No: missing
Location: Randburg

Re: Buy or not? - golf GT

Post by Belix »

Some info here https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopi ... 4&t=167848
@SayedMK1 had a magazine which features it, maybe some interior pics included.
Post Reply