Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
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Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Good day gents,
Just wanted to know what some of you guys are getting.
I checked my car on vcds yesterday, and at the coast in durban I see a max of 160g/cm3, and this with a Cai, without the airfilter this value goes up to 180 g/cm3..... Is this low? I was under the impression I should be seeing above 200g/cm3 but also, this maf has never been replaced. The car feels much more livelier without the filter so I can only imagine how it would feel with even higher maf readings. Just wanted to know if it's time to replace this sensor.
Just wanted to know what some of you guys are getting.
I checked my car on vcds yesterday, and at the coast in durban I see a max of 160g/cm3, and this with a Cai, without the airfilter this value goes up to 180 g/cm3..... Is this low? I was under the impression I should be seeing above 200g/cm3 but also, this maf has never been replaced. The car feels much more livelier without the filter so I can only imagine how it would feel with even higher maf readings. Just wanted to know if it's time to replace this sensor.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
That is low, especially for the coast.
Check block 032 for fuel trims and also check if you are meeting requested boost in yhe upper rpms.
Check block 032 for fuel trims and also check if you are meeting requested boost in yhe upper rpms.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
What exactly will I be checking for here?
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Can it be related to software at all? Car has a mild tune and boosts 1.3bar.
How would I know if it's definitely the sensor that's not performing at its optimum.
I wouldn't wanna replace the sensor if I still get the same Low values and perhaps there is some other issue.
How would I know if it's definitely the sensor that's not performing at its optimum.
I wouldn't wanna replace the sensor if I still get the same Low values and perhaps there is some other issue.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Block 032 shows fuel trims. Close to 0% is ideal but up to 5% is fine. High trims can point to either injector or maf issues.
If the actual boost deviates from requested with the n75 duty cycle at 100%. Then something could be wrong.
If you are unsure how to interpret the logs then post the graphs here. Do a 3rd gear pull to redline and graph values in excel.
If the actual boost deviates from requested with the n75 duty cycle at 100%. Then something could be wrong.
If you are unsure how to interpret the logs then post the graphs here. Do a 3rd gear pull to redline and graph values in excel.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
With my broken K04-023 at the coast I was seeing a peak of 216g/s on a 3" MAF Housing that was at 1 bar
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Thanks guys.
Still trying to figure out if its definitely the MAf thats faulty.
Got a price of ~ R1720 + Vat
Are these sensors available without the Maf housing or is it sold as a complete unit only ?
Still trying to figure out if its definitely the MAf thats faulty.
Got a price of ~ R1720 + Vat
Are these sensors available without the Maf housing or is it sold as a complete unit only ?
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Have you tried cleaning it?
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2008 VW POLO GTI - 76mm DP + 63mm exhaust , induction, FMIC, Thanas Tuned
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Not yet.
Can I use an electrical cleaner or even isopropyl alcohol to clean the sensor?
I know these sensors are very delicate, is there a right way of doing it?
Can I use an electrical cleaner or even isopropyl alcohol to clean the sensor?
I know these sensors are very delicate, is there a right way of doing it?
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Yes , either of the two will work - just make you don't use something that would leave residue o the sensor - like oil/silicone based products.
Remove, Clean , Leave to dry - Reinstall
Remove, Clean , Leave to dry - Reinstall
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Carb cleaner also works lekker
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
I actually used carb cleaner to clean mine but didnt want to mention it as there are a few biased opinions about it on the forum.
Cleaned it more than once and had no issues.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Agreed, but most of the time its because someone read something on some website and then decided its bad for the MAF
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Just called Barons out of curiosity to get a price, only to get the shock of my life to hear its R7555 + vat
Diesel Electric is R1720 + Vat
Diesel Electric is R1720 + Vat
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Crazy and it's probably the exact same thing - Bosch with same part no's.
Anyway, It's a delicate part , be careful when cleaning it - should've cleaned it before you found out it's price
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Agreed there's all kind's of stories on the net about cleaning MAF's , was skeptical at first but did it first hand since no one could give me an exact answer , pleased to say the carb cleaner did more good than harm
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Did you manage to get higher Airflow readings after cleaning the MAF , if so how much higher ?ICE King wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:49 pmAgreed there's all kind's of stories on the net about cleaning MAF's , was skeptical at first but did it first hand since no one could give me an exact answer , pleased to say the carb cleaner did more good than harm
The reason I ask, is I was told by the Tuning company who did my Software that, on a Brand new stock K04, I should only be seeing a max of 190g @ the coast. This contradicts what I've read up so far.
I will give cleaning the MAF a try though.
Still unsure whether I will fork out 2K for a new MAF, that may well still give me the same low result.
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Re: Expected maf result for S3 8L with stock k04-023
Your tuning company is wrong.
Did you check block 032? This is the easiest way to confirm maf operation.
For cleaning the maf, grab a can of electronic parts cleaner from builders.
Did you check block 032? This is the easiest way to confirm maf operation.
For cleaning the maf, grab a can of electronic parts cleaner from builders.
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To be honest,since it was boosting just as hard after I cleaned there was no reason to check and can't remember the last figure the last time the car was logged.,P1LAYA-ZN wrote: ↑Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:26 pmDid you manage to get higher Airflow readings after cleaning the MAF , if so how much higher ?ICE King wrote: ↑Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:49 pmAgreed there's all kind's of stories on the net about cleaning MAF's , was skeptical at first but did it first hand since no one could give me an exact answer , pleased to say the carb cleaner did more good than harm
The reason I ask, is I was told by the Tuning company who did my Software that, on a Brand new stock K04, I should only be seeing a max of 190g @ the coast. This contradicts what I've read up so far.
I will give cleaning the MAF a try though.
Still unsure whether I will fork out 2K for a new MAF, that may well still give me the same low result.
Cleaned as part of normal maintenance since I was working in the TIP area.
1992 Mazda 323 B3 - Masala Mods
2008 VW POLO GTI - 76mm DP + 63mm exhaust , induction, FMIC, Thanas Tuned
2008 VW POLO GTI - 76mm DP + 63mm exhaust , induction, FMIC, Thanas Tuned