Tman21 wrote: ↑Wed May 16, 2018 2:25 pm On this point @NEUK And proper high jack on the subject. My wife is doing her MBA and she has to do an assignment on SASOL and so Ill be doing some more reading. Also reading kak old posts on here which begs the question . . . what do you fill up with in youR? (unless I missed it)

Very funny to see people debating fuel on the internet. . .

B_rad wrote:

hostility wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:27 am Eish 1.4tsi problems.....i Kakked a bit when i bought my 1.4tsi twincharged 2012........with its notorious issues of piston failure......

Symptoms start with lumpy idle, misfire, oil usage and then piston number 3 failure......upon more research VW's software update recall did work, but they will they will come up with every excuse not to fix your car once the piston does go boom.

Then even more research with the UK boys and their Twincharged Cupra's having the exact same issues they found a good software upgrade was the answer, So i chatted to Revo and a stage 1 upgrade had everything firing optimally........I did it just as a precaution, and 2 more mates of mine did it on their 1.4tsi motors too. 3 years in and going strong.......but regardless to all i've mentioned here...its a lucky packet motor for sure.

I have actually heard of guys saying this before - doing the software sorted out the AFR's and helped prevent it (or so I am told).

aomar296 wrote: ↑Sun May 20, 2018 6:51 am

B_rad wrote:

hostility wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:27 am Eish 1.4tsi problems.....i Kakked a bit when i bought my 1.4tsi twincharged 2012........with its notorious issues of piston failure......

Symptoms start with lumpy idle, misfire, oil usage and then piston number 3 failure......upon more research VW's software update recall did work, but they will they will come up with every excuse not to fix your car once the piston does go boom.

Then even more research with the UK boys and their Twincharged Cupra's having the exact same issues they found a good software upgrade was the answer, So i chatted to Revo and a stage 1 upgrade had everything firing optimally........I did it just as a precaution, and 2 more mates of mine did it on their 1.4tsi motors too. 3 years in and going strong.......but regardless to all i've mentioned here...its a lucky packet motor for sure.

I have actually heard of guys saying this before - doing the software sorted out the AFR's and helped prevent it (or so I am told).

Have any you guys had this issue sorted out with a software fix instead of having to take the whole engine and the risk attached to that?

Please advise

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aomar296 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 10:35 pm

FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 11:17 am Hi FvE

Any updates on your car? Is the dealership willing to cover the cost or VWSA?

VWSA refused to help in any way this week on my car until I authorize the strip and quote for my account

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Hi Aomar296
I am still busy with the 1000km. Sitting on 700km now.
Any update from your side? Did you authorize the strip and quote?

Still undecided? Can't take the risk of sitting with a R100k bill and no car so still driving and monitoring oil

Thanks for updating me

Hope you come right

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panic-mechanic wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 7:00 am Let me explain something about clever ECU and prevention safety features.
In the hunt for optimum power and efficiency the maps are so that they always try to run as much timing as possible.
So it will run the timing on the map until it finds detonation - it can't retard/prevent knock or stop knock until a knock even has occurred.
Once it had actually seen knock it will retard the timing for a set period - then it will allow it to advance again to the point the map says it should be.
It finds knock again, retards, hold it a while and then allows it to advance again. Rinse and repeat. So if you go into reading blocks in diagnostic - every time you see timing pull there was an actual detonation event. So go drive it and tell me how many timing pull events you see on a nice hot day...
then we can talk about this no knock thing......

FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 10:35 pm

FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 11:17 am Hi FvE

Any updates on your car? Is the dealership willing to cover the cost or VWSA?

VWSA refused to help in any way this week on my car until I authorize the strip and quote for my account

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Hi Aomar296
I am still busy with the 1000km. Sitting on 700km now.
Any update from your side? Did you authorize the strip and quote?

Still undecided? Can't take the risk of sitting with a R100k bill and no car so still driving and monitoring oil

Thanks for updating me

Hope you come right

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Took car for the stage 2 oil consumption test. VW confirmed above spec oil consumption. 1.2liter per 1000km.
They also confirmed that VWSA will not be assisting. Dealership said I can take it up with VWSA myself.
Total cost so far.
1st stage - R1700
2nd stage - R2400
Strip and quote - R4200
Repair cost - R 46000
Total - R 54300
Im done with VW.

panic-mechanic wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 7:00 am Let me explain something about clever ECU and prevention safety features.
In the hunt for optimum power and efficiency the maps are so that they always try to run as much timing as possible.
So it will run the timing on the map until it finds detonation - it can't retard/prevent knock or stop knock until a knock even has occurred.
Once it had actually seen knock it will retard the timing for a set period - then it will allow it to advance again to the point the map says it should be.
It finds knock again, retards, hold it a while and then allows it to advance again. Rinse and repeat. So if you go into reading blocks in diagnostic - every time you see timing pull there was an actual detonation event. So go drive it and tell me how many timing pull events you see on a nice hot day...
then we can talk about this no knock thing......

aomar296 wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:30 pm What happened to the goodwill VW promised?

Did you go ahead with the repair?

What exactly was wrong once they stripped?

FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 10:35 pm

FvE wrote:
Hi Aomar296
I am still busy with the 1000km. Sitting on 700km now.
Any update from your side? Did you authorize the strip and quote?

Still undecided? Can't take the risk of sitting with a R100k bill and no car so still driving and monitoring oil

Thanks for updating me

Hope you come right

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Took car for the stage 2 oil consumption test. VW confirmed above spec oil consumption. 1.2liter per 1000km.
They also confirmed that VWSA will not be assisting. Dealership said I can take it up with VWSA myself.
Total cost so far.
1st stage - R1700
2nd stage - R2400
Strip and quote - R4200
Repair cost - R 46000
Total - R 54300
Im done with VW.

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FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Fri May 25, 2018 6:30 pm What happened to the goodwill VW promised?

Did you go ahead with the repair?

What exactly was wrong once they stripped?

FvE wrote:

aomar296 wrote: ↑Tue May 15, 2018 10:35 pm Still undecided? Can't take the risk of sitting with a R100k bill and no car so still driving and monitoring oil

Thanks for updating me

Hope you come right

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Took car for the stage 2 oil consumption test. VW confirmed above spec oil consumption. 1.2liter per 1000km.
They also confirmed that VWSA will not be assisting. Dealership said I can take it up with VWSA myself.
Total cost so far.
1st stage - R1700
2nd stage - R2400
Strip and quote - R4200
Repair cost - R 46000
Total - R 54300
Im done with VW.

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The dealership claims that they put in a request to VWSA for a goodwill claim. VWSA rejected. I then took it up with VWSA myself. Waiting for a response from them. They phoned my yesterday and said that they still busy with the investigation and need more time before they can give me a response.

The service advisor only told me that the piston and rings are worn and send me quotation for R 43000 for repair. I requested for a reason or cause for the damage, but im still waiting for his response. Don't think I will get one.

I have not given the go ahead for repair, waiting for VWSA response.

arnotur wrote: another victim here.. should have read a bit more before buying..

Purchased a 2013 golf 7 1.4tsi 2 months ago, with just over 100k kms and on day 1 picked up actuator issue which vw replaced a week later.. in that 1st week though i noticed the oil light coming on and filled a litre..

After the actuator repair, another week later.. oil light again. Have done about 6000kms now and oil usage has become noticeably worse.. approx. 1l every 600kms at this point. Typed a long sad mail to the dealer stating how disappointed i was..no response as yet.

Was also advised repairs will be min 40k..

What to do now..i just bought the car.. really sad

Are there no cheaper options of just replacing the pistons and rings and re using the rest odlf the engine components?

I do about 800km per week driving through Sandton.
I wonder is the 2.0 tdi motor more reliable as I will be doing plus minus 40000 km per year.

HendrikCTI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:20 am

I do about 800km per week driving through Sandton.
I wonder is the 2.0 tdi motor more reliable as I will be doing plus minus 40000 km per year.

Just buy a non turbo car to have more ease of mind. Or buy Jap and have stress free motoring if you drive so many km per year.

arnotur wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:39 am My other question is why is this car so expensive to repair.. 40k minimum neh man, that sounds like a price for a very good used engine..

Are these pistons made of gold or what

I had a ring landing break on my s3 and in total the fix was around 10k..not sure what is so expensive on a lesser engine like this.

HendrikCTI wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 8:39 am @Neuk
I agree with doing proper research when buying a car. But I have noticed on German and European cars that friends at work have, that they tend to over complicate things on their designs. My one friend has a Mercedes and also couple of Toyotas. He says the Toyotas are a pleasure to work on and maintain.

My other friend has a Polo 1.4i and also Toyotas. Again same story, the Toyotas are easier to work on. The polo he says is still a very good car sitting on 250 000km with very little issues. Was mostly just water leaks. Not using a drop of oil and abused by his girlfriend who is a rep. He is going to try pushing it for the 400 000km mark.

aomar296 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:25 pm Any response from VWSA FvE?

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