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Hoosier Daddy wrote:
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JasonCPT wrote:Good figures, and awesome curve! There is an RK motion tuner in Cape Town right?
Yes there is Quinton Phillipson
Oooohhh...details? I need a good map in my life...current one sucks big hairy donkey balls
loooooooooooooooooooooooool!
Seriously....boost gauge goes up to 1.5bar, then drops to 1bar, then 1.3bar and up and down again. Car feels like it wants to go...then decides not to want anymore...then again it goes.

Tuner tells me my 007 dv is the cause...i fit OEM back...same ****
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MouseGTI wrote: Seriously....boost gauge goes up to 1.5bar, then drops to 1bar, then 1.3bar and up and down again. Car feels like it wants to go...then decides not to want anymore...then again it goes.

Tuner tells me my 007 dv is the cause...i fit OEM back...same ****
Same kak I have on both my 20vT, with stock or Forge DV. :cry:

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Eish.....ima ask the dude to load as stock a map as possible...will see what other reasons i get instead of just fixing the map
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Firestrm_ZA wrote:
MouseGTI wrote: Seriously....boost gauge goes up to 1.5bar, then drops to 1bar, then 1.3bar and up and down again. Car feels like it wants to go...then decides not to want anymore...then again it goes.

Tuner tells me my 007 dv is the cause...i fit OEM back...same ****
Same kak I have on both my 20vT, with stock or Forge DV. :cry:
Sounds like an actuator issue
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MouseGTI wrote:
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JasonCPT wrote:Good figures, and awesome curve! There is an RK motion tuner in Cape Town right?
Yes there is Quinton Phillipson
Oooohhh...details? I need a good map in my life...current one sucks big hairy donkey balls
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Kyle wrote:
Firestrm_ZA wrote:
MouseGTI wrote: Seriously....boost gauge goes up to 1.5bar, then drops to 1bar, then 1.3bar and up and down again. Car feels like it wants to go...then decides not to want anymore...then again it goes.

Tuner tells me my 007 dv is the cause...i fit OEM back...same ****
Same kak I have on both my 20vT, with stock or Forge DV. :cry:
Sounds like an actuator issue
Definitely actuator or N75 related. Get your hardware sorted first before you jump tunes.
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Oh i intend to...still need a new tuner. Instead of just blaming hardware...how about tuner helps customer out atleast with fault finding rather than naming parts...got more help from you guys in 5minutes.lol

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MouseGTI wrote:Oh i intend to...still need a new tuner. Instead of just blaming hardware...how about tuner helps customer out atleast with fault finding rather than naming parts...got more help from you guys in 5minutes.lol

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I had that issue in top gear when loading. Boost would fluctuate a little. After the n249 bypass it's gone.
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Mine did it too on my Jetta, because actual boost would go over requested, then ECU would adjust N75 and it would undershoot and that's how it would keep going. At the moment my car is tuned to not overshoot at all, and it was doing that but now my actuator is stuffed.

You can see how I tune my boost using WGDC% so that it doesn't overshoot, it still does it slightly though(Because it can't use a higher DC% than it is set to). I also have no choice because this chinese WG sucks. Also, this graph gives you an idea of how boost fluctuates slightly when controlled by the N75.

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True. Yet if the client doesn't know how to check these things should the tuner not assist or guide the client?

I've no idea how to check or set the actuator for example, so my 1st point of call would be my tuner to assist. How does it help to have a tuner who tunes the car...picks up a hardware error and then leaves you to fend for yourself and google or head to a different tuner who can check the hardware. Rather then go to tuner b that can tune and check hardware...
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MouseGTI wrote:True. Yet if the client doesn't know how to check these things should the tuner not assist or guide the client?

I've no idea how to check or set the actuator for example, so my 1st point of call would be my tuner to assist. How does it help to have a tuner who tunes the car...picks up a hardware error and then leaves you to fend for yourself and google or head to a different tuner who can check the hardware. Rather then go to tuner b that can tune and check hardware...
Not the tuner's job, you paid for software which you got, why would they be responsible for every fault in your car after that?
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Never said they're responsible buddy. I said the least they could was assist or guide. They don't have to fix....but point me in the direction atleast hey
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MouseGTI wrote:Never said they're responsible buddy. I said the least they could was assist or guide. They don't have to fix....but why not help?


You can't expect to pay them for the software, and then be responsible for all diagnostics after? Doesn't make sense.
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Wait....so it's unreasonable for my tuner to say:" car is mapped, there's an issue with the boost management. I think you should have your wastegate checked buddy."

Instead of..."car is mapped. Thanks cheers.". Then you notice boost is weird...and tuner says not my problem...its your hardware. And im not gonna even hint at what it could be.

Surely the tuner has enough knowledge to just mention what the fault could relate to so I can fix at my own expense?
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I understand that.

All I'm saying is. If a guy maps my car....and the car is unhealthy afterwards...please point me in a direction you think could be the problem since you have more knowledge than me. I'll happily then have it checked and sorted for hardware faults instead of me going to google and then randomly checking things that could have no implication in the fault.
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F@k well done Wes!! That is proper figures there! who needs KO4 :lol:

Regarding Veedubbed and FireStormZA with the boost fluctuation issue, its probably a weak actuator spring guys or issue with N75 and map.

But my money is on actuator opening and closing as the spring is too weak to hold boost and gets pushed open and then closes again as the boost falls.
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Gizmo20VT wrote:
MouseGTI wrote:I understand that.

All I'm saying is. If a guy maps my car....and the car is unhealthy afterwards...please point me in a direction you think could be the problem since you have more knowledge than me. I'll happily then have it checked and sorted for hardware faults instead of me going to google and then randomly checking things that could have no implication in the fault.
If he mapped the car and it was unhealthy in front of him and on logs and he still proceeded to take your money, then I would ask for it to be flashed back to stock and move to another tuner...
Car was boosting weird ever since it was mapped by said tuner. This is why im saying all i would have liked was to be pointed in a direction. You guys here pointed me in the direction of actuator. That's all i wanted....tuner said meh.
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MouseGTI wrote:Wait....so it's unreasonable for my tuner to say:" car is mapped, there's an issue with the boost management. I think you should have your wastegate checked buddy."

Instead of..."car is mapped. Thanks cheers.". Then you notice boost is weird...and tuner says not my problem...its your hardware. And im not gonna even hint at what it could be.

Surely the tuner has enough knowledge to just mention what the fault could relate to so I can fix at my own expense?
MouseGTI I agree with you here bud. In the end it's all about better service even though it's not their problem if your hardware is the problem, but there is nothing wrong with helping a customer out as much as they can.
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MouseGTI wrote:
Gizmo20VT wrote:
MouseGTI wrote:I understand that.

All I'm saying is. If a guy maps my car....and the car is unhealthy afterwards...please point me in a direction you think could be the problem since you have more knowledge than me. I'll happily then have it checked and sorted for hardware faults instead of me going to google and then randomly checking things that could have no implication in the fault.
If he mapped the car and it was unhealthy in front of him and on logs and he still proceeded to take your money, then I would ask for it to be flashed back to stock and move to another tuner...
Car was boosting weird ever since it was mapped by said tuner. This is why im saying all i would have liked was to be pointed in a direction. You guys here pointed me in the direction of actuator. That's all i wanted....tuner said meh.
That's why i say they are file loaders and not tuners. A tuner will be able to give you hardware support should there be an issue.
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Stompie wrote:F@k well done Wes!! That is proper figures there! who needs KO4 :lol:

Regarding Veedubbed and FireStormZA with the boost fluctuation issue, its probably a weak actuator spring guys or issue with N75 and map.

But my money is on actuator opening and closing as the spring is too weak to hold boost and gets pushed open and then closes again as the boost falls.
N249 Bypass and all is well.
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VeeDubbed wrote:
Stompie wrote:F@k well done Wes!! That is proper figures there! who needs KO4 :lol:

Regarding Veedubbed and FireStormZA with the boost fluctuation issue, its probably a weak actuator spring guys or issue with N75 and map.

But my money is on actuator opening and closing as the spring is too weak to hold boost and gets pushed open and then closes again as the boost falls.
N249 Bypass and all is well.
Edit:

Saw what you mean, ok cool glad you sorted.
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