96 Citi Brakes vs 2001 Citi Brakes

[Gts88]

Evening Chaps, Hope all you are well...

I’m stuck between a Rock and a Hard place and if you all will allow me, I would like to pick your brains a bit...

Here is the thing. I have 2 Cities, a 96 1.6 carb and the 2001 1.4 soon to be 2.0... before I did the 256mm Mk3 front disks on the 1.4 the 2 cars had almost identical braking equipment except for the 1.4 230mm disks were vented and the 1.6 had solids and also the 1.6 had the tension rod mechanism between the pedal and booster while the later 1.4 had the torsion tube type.
Now, since I got the 1.4 it brakes had a lazy feel to it, not at all as positive as the older one. At first I thought the fluid could be old so I did a complete change. It improved slightly but not much. I then did the 23mm Master cylinder and that gave me a bit more pedal height but did not improve the feel much to be like the older 96 one. After I did the 256mm change it stopped even better, like on a coin, but it still had that buttery feel to it.. If you can imagine the difference between a slightly smaller booster and a STD one, that feel.. I am 10000% sure there is no defective equipment or air in the system. I used the vacuum method to change the fluid out so there is NO chance of air being induced into the system.

As I say, there was never anything wrong with the stopping power and surely not now with the upgrades, just that feel that you initially need to put a bit more foot and it has a bit more Give.??!

Can it possibly be that the torque tube has more Twist in it than the older Tension rods?? Pap Brake pipes? I’m Stumped on this one. https://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/posting. ... =post&f=92#

Any Ideas?

Thanks a stack…

[Gts88]

Anyone??


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[Dries_Qwerty]

The only guess I have is that the brake lines could be a bit worn out and bulge when pressure is applied to the peddle?

[EX-DOHCTOR]

The only guess I have is that the brake lines could be a bit worn out and bulge when pressure is applied to the peddle?

Was about to say exactly this. You could look at replacing front and rear rubber lines with braided steel lines.
They should maintain ca more onsistent braking pressure and not suffer from brake fade.

You would unfortunately have the flush the brake fluid again though.



Had these made up at Rudman Hydraulics for my 2 door a while back.

[Gts88]

The only guess I have is that the brake lines could be a bit worn out and bulge when pressure is applied to the peddle?

Was about to say exactly this. You could look at replacing front and rear rubber lines with braided steel lines.
They should maintain ca more onsistent braking pressure and not suffer from brake fade.

You would unfortunately have the flush the brake fluid again though.



Had these made up at Rudman Hydraulics for my 2 door a while back.

Ja, this I like and its the next step for me..... know of anyone who I can order from that will postnet them to me....? I stay in the Boendoes, no brake specialists near me....


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[missioner]

The only guess I have is that the brake lines could be a bit worn out and bulge when pressure is applied to the peddle?

Was about to say exactly this. You could look at replacing front and rear rubber lines with braided steel lines.
They should maintain ca more onsistent braking pressure and not suffer from brake fade.

You would unfortunately have the flush the brake fluid again though.



Had these made up at Rudman Hydraulics for my 2 door a while back.

Ja, this I like and its the next step for me..... know of anyone who I can order from that will postnet them to me....? I stay in the Boendoes, no brake specialists near me....


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Speak to Norbrake. I am sure they can send them to you once they are done.

[Gts88]

The only guess I have is that the brake lines could be a bit worn out and bulge when pressure is applied to the peddle?

Was about to say exactly this. You could look at replacing front and rear rubber lines with braided steel lines.
They should maintain ca more onsistent braking pressure and not suffer from brake fade.

You would unfortunately have the flush the brake fluid again though.



Had these made up at Rudman Hydraulics for my 2 door a while back.

Ja, this I like and its the next step for me..... know of anyone who I can order from that will postnet them to me....? I stay in the Boendoes, no brake specialists near me....


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Speak to Norbrake. I am sure they can send them to you once they are done.

Know the guys.... they helped me with 210 clutch kit before..... thanks for reminding me...


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