1.3 Citi Carb high fuel economy

[TheBos89]

Hi Everyone, need some advice, I'm driving a 1994 Citi Shuttle 1.3 carb I use this car to travel to work and home (228Km) with lift club. and I'm getting 10.8km/l on highway at 110km/h can I better the fuel economy and how. we are 3 guys in car almost 300kg. running 15" 8J rims. new GW carb and new dizzy. car starts and runs perfect and smooth no issues there. any advice to get better fuel economy will help a lot . thank you

[Jetta2]

Tell the 300kg worth of people to walk = instant better fuel economy.

That fuel usage is pretty normal for that car.

[TheBos89]

I've told everyone to go on diet. that's bad got 17km/l with my old fiesta 1.3 I used in the past with same amount of weight in. thank you for advice

[panic-mechanic]

I think you must get the fiesta back. 1.3 golf were never known for good economy.

[VAG Fan]

I fitted a GW carb onto my Mk 1 GTS (1600) when the old Pierburg Solex started to give troubles, and I never really got any good fuel economy out of the GW carb. It's a Keihin replica.
My Fox (also a 1600) with the genuine Keihin carb will easily get more than 12 km / l at 110 km/h - probably closer to 13 or even 14.

The point being: I wonder whether the GW carbs are ever jetted and set-up correctly.

[TheBos89]

Thank guys talking to a few buddies of mine as well, he told me know that his buddy had a 1.3 and fitted different carb 1.3 was heavier than is 2.0 abf turbo golf after proper tuning an setup got 16km/l

[panic-mechanic]

Get the golf on a dyno with an old school tuner thatbstil knows how jettting works and see what the fuelling looks like and get it set. They come with a generic set for sea level jet size in which is too rich for our 1600m altitude.

[Dub rox]

For starters you could go back to the standard 13" wheels and width.

On a "lighter" note...
1-Remove all unwhanred/not requiered items from the car.
2- Chow down less rotti's and incourage your friends to do so aswell
3-Change the airodinamic properties of a face brick...

On a more "constructive" note....
Ad some more power to the car, might pull it's weight around better.

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[TheBos89]

Thanx guys will try that. will cam increase power and fuel economy of weaken that say 268 cam I only owned fords in the past so learning a lot on these cars. I did cam on my 1.6 fiesta rsi and went down from joburg to toti and got 18km/l just wondering if it will do the same on golf

[panic-mechanic]

No an aggressive cam will only make it worse.
But you will never ever ever get 18km/l in a citi golf 1.3 unless you do it alone at 60km/h. Just not realistic foe them. Maybe 1-3 km/ l better than currently but that is about it.

[VAG Fan]

Besides jetting, timing may also be a contributing factor. On the Reef, I can run my Fox quite advanced (which is more efficient), but when I use that setting at the coast, it pings horribly, even with 95 octane.
The old-school tuner that Panic recommended seeing, should be able to sort that out easily.

[TheBos89]

will do busy trying to get some old school guys thank a lot for the advice

[panic-mechanic]

Of course the fact that you supply no area helps make it impossible to recommend anybody.

[TheBos89]

Sorry guys I'm from Vanderbijlpark and will use the golf to travel to bryanston about 7 days a month(rest of the days travel with lift club. and don't want to put km on my other newer car. bought the golf to use for lift club as its cheap and easy to maintain and service. but got the surprise of a lifetime with fuel this week alone. doing 228 km a day and costs me R350 a day fuel alone

[TheBos89]

[OettingerTDi]

Presumably you are also running a 4 speed gearbox, which should increase revs to about 4000 r/min at 110 km/h, also compounding the problem.

When I changed the carb on my Citi with a GW carb, the size of the (secondary?) jet was far larger than required and was modified by a knowledgeable tuner.

As was suggested above, best would be to get the cars timing and carb set up looked at, I saw a 10% decrease in consumption.

[TheBos89]

Thank you no running 5 speed gearbox. about 3500rpm at 120. if I had the cash would drop that and fit mp9 head and FI

[panic-mechanic]

What you should have done is got a polo 1.9 tdi....

[TheBos89]

if I had the money would have have a 1.5 tdci ecosport as other car

[panic-mechanic]

Sure. But i'm kinda a little biased towards vw/audi

[TheBos89]

hehe, I can get a CITI Golf Diesel for R35000 or a 1978 Golf mk1 diesel Original AF for R40000 but no bonussus for us at work

[Dub rox]

hehe, I can get a CITI Golf Diesel for R35000 or a 1978 Golf mk1 diesel Original AF for R40000 but no bonussus for us at work

Where if i may ask can you get the 70's diesel golf. Please pm me if your not going to take it....

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[Dub rox]

if I had the money would have have a 1.5 tdci ecosport as other car

Those are frugal as heck....

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[TheBos89]

ery nice and practical car. my wife uses it did not want another petrol car she loves the torque of the diesel. just waiting for warrenty to go, so I can do filter and decat. did my fiesta 1.6 tdci and average fuel was 4.5l/100km one time got 3.2 but drove 90 on N1 from vanderbijl to bryanston

[VAG Fan]

What you should have done is got a polo 1.9 tdi....

If there's one thing my TDI has taught me, it's that consumption figures only tell part of the story.

The 1300 Citi doesn't need a new turbo every 120k-odd km, or new/recon injectors at x-thousands per shot, it won't wear down its camshaft, etc. etc. - you can happily gooi in the cheapest 20W-50 mineral oil and just keep going, perhaps the odd (cheap) timing belt change.