1.3 Citi Carb high fuel economy

[TheBos89]

That's the main reason for the golf very cheap and easy to maintain have extra spares in boot to be able to fix next to the road

[HendrikCTI]

Many years ago at my previous work I had a work colleague who had a 1300 chico with the 4 speed gearbox. She got much better fuel economy at 120km/h than what you are getting. Think it was 14 or 15.
I would guess that carb needs a serious tuning by someone who knows them well.
Will the old carb's jets not fit on that carb?

[TheBos89]

I bought the golf with this carb. guy told me he has redone motor fitted new carb and dizzy so will take it to get tuned next week buy a old school mechanic my dada told me about. he know his fords but might be able to assist with the golf also buddy of mine will take me to one of his friends that know the carb and golf like the back of his hands, I WILL NOT GIVE UP

[HendrikCTI]

Please keep us updated to spread the knowledge. Especially regarding the GW carburetors.

[TheBos89]

will do only way to learn is thru these kind of forums did find a guy though in Bloem he has changed the jets on his GW carb getting 15km/l on his 1600. so finding advice all around SA

[Masendaco]

will do only way to learn is thru these kind of forums did find a guy though in Bloem he has changed the jets on his GW carb getting 15km/l on his 1600. so finding advice all around SA

These old school guy's can put a co2 metre up the exhaust and also fine tune the carb to that.

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[Masendaco]

Best will be on dyno with load on the engine


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[ICE King]

Here's an interesting fact , the Citi Golf 1.3 had 10l/100km urban on it's brochure - Stock , you've done a few things to your so you can expect a higher L/100km + your added weight.

also , with today price of petrol , R100 = 6L - do the maths

Your cars fine , It's the price of petrol thats the problem.

I have the same problem with my Mazda 323 , It's urban fuel consumption is rated more than a Golf 7 GTI

In this day in age , A carb isn't really efficient.

[VAG Fan]

Urban cycle is something completely different from 110 km/h on the highway. The OP is getting 10.8 km/l, which equates to 9.3 l/100 km, and in my opinion can most definitely be improved upon, in spite of the larger tyres and heavy passengers.

[ICE King]

Apologies , didn't read that bit., jumped straight in .

So on the 45l tank, his getting +- 480kms a tank , Sounds about right?

The 1.4i's are more fuel efficient , they get about +-600kms.

[TheBos89]

Hi guys, so some feedback regarding some research i did last night, the gw carb has bigger jets contacted a guy that only works on carbs told me he cannot do anything with these carbs have to get an original VW carb so managed to get one for R300. so most of the 1300 carbs gets at least 15km/l on highway. Ice King my grandmother also has a mazda 323 1300 and she is getting almost 18km/l have to say she is my grandmother and drives like a granny to . wil be taking car in next week to get in tuned will fit original carb one from a 1600 and will do a test and let you guys know. then will change rims and see if that makes a big difference .

[Wolf Mk2 16V]

What you should have done is got a polo 1.9 tdi....

If there's one thing my TDI has taught me, it's that consumption figures only tell part of the story.

The 1300 Citi doesn't need a new turbo every 120k-odd km, or new/recon injectors at x-thousands per shot, it won't wear down its camshaft, etc. etc. - you can happily gooi in the cheapest 20W-50 mineral oil and just keep going, perhaps the odd (cheap) timing belt change.

100% agree, maintenance and turbos on my Sportline and Mk5 TDi killed any fuel saved Also they never feel or sound the same after that. Will never drive a diesel car again. Even my T5's...madness what it costs to run them even at VAG spec centre

[Wolf Mk2 16V]

Hi guys, so some feedback regarding some research i did last night, the gw carb has bigger jets contacted a guy that only works on carbs told me he cannot do anything with these carbs have to get an original VW carb so managed to get one for R300. so most of the 1300 carbs gets at least 15km/l on highway. Ice King my grandmother also has a mazda 323 1300 and she is getting almost 18km/l have to say she is my grandmother and drives like a granny to . wil be taking car in next week to get in tuned will fit original carb one from a 1600 and will do a test and let you guys know. then will change rims and see if that makes a big difference .

Anyone that says they get 15km/l with a 1300 Citi is talking shite or doing 80 down hill all the time

[ICE King]

Hi guys, so some feedback regarding some research i did last night, the gw carb has bigger jets contacted a guy that only works on carbs told me he cannot do anything with these carbs have to get an original VW carb so managed to get one for R300. so most of the 1300 carbs gets at least 15km/l on highway. Ice King my grandmother also has a mazda 323 1300 and she is getting almost 18km/l have to say she is my grandmother and drives like a granny to . wil be taking car in next week to get in tuned will fit original carb one from a 1600 and will do a test and let you guys know. then will change rims and see if that makes a big difference .

15km/1 = Thats 675kms on a tank!. , I use to drive a Yellow Citi 1.3 4 speed , also had a GW carb and got at most 500kms when driving granny mode.

Must be the granny foot , cause if I drive nicely , I'd be lucky to get 12km/l on the mazda 323 - note this purely town & traffic driving , I do accelerate hard as I don't have whole day to get moving.

[Sean Trollope]

Right. So I drive a 97 1.3 citi most days. Its got a Dgg box. Given the motor is possibly a little tired as the car has got 220000 on the clock. I can easily spend 3 hours a day in the car. I can tell you that out of a tank I seldom see more than 550 km if I drive very very nicely. If I drive like most vdub drivers I see about 500 km to a tank and the car has got standard 1.4i mags however when I still had the steelies the figures were exactly the same and my tires are always pumped to 2.5 bar before and after the wheel change.

These figures exclude the amount of oil I have to put in the thing but just my 2c

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[VAG Fan]

What you should have done is got a polo 1.9 tdi....

If there's one thing my TDI has taught me, it's that consumption figures only tell part of the story.

The 1300 Citi doesn't need a new turbo every 120k-odd km, or new/recon injectors at x-thousands per shot, it won't wear down its camshaft, etc. etc. - you can happily gooi in the cheapest 20W-50 mineral oil and just keep going, perhaps the odd (cheap) timing belt change.

100% agree, maintenance and turbos on my Sportline and Mk5 TDi killed any fuel saved Also they never feel or sound the same after that. Will never drive a diesel car again. Even my T5's...madness what it costs to run them even at VAG spec centre

Yes, I can relate.
My TDI has an unfair advantage mainly because the car it replaced, was an old, leaky, guzzling Audi 500 SE with two wheels already in the scrapyard. So the TDI basically halved my fuel bill. But in 28 months, I've replaced a dual mass flywheel clutch and the turbo, and spent many more hours on "stuff", e.g. a leaking VE pump. Injectors might be next... And I agree, the car neither feels nor sounds the same after a turbo change. But I'm already too invested in it, so I'll probably drive it till it dies.

[TheBos89]

Hi Guys some updates I have done to get better fuel economy. so Previously I got 8.8km/l in town managed to get that up to 11.4km/l.
I got a original VW carb from a 1600 golf. took that in to be completely overhauled and set the Co levels. the car was running at 2.6% co at idle and stayed there at 3000rpm should drop to 0.15% at 3000rpm due to highway speed. we have checks and setup to run at 3% at idle and its dropping nicely at 3000rpm will do a test next week with 13" steelies on highway to see if it runs better still have 15" 8j rims on. Also my timing was out had that setup to correct timing using timing light

[buffyza]

Hi Guys some updates I have done to get better fuel economy. so Previously I got 8.8km/l in town managed to get that up to 11.4km/l.
I got a original VW carb from a 1600 golf. took that in to be completely overhauled and set the Co levels. the car was running at 2.6% co at idle and stayed there at 3000rpm should drop to 0.15% at 3000rpm due to highway speed. we have checks and setup to run at 3% at idle and its dropping nicely at 3000rpm will do a test next week with 13" steelies on highway to see if it runs better still have 15" 8j rims on. Also my timing was out had that setup to correct timing using timing light

Who may I ask redid the carb for you and what did it cost?

I need mine done as its leaking and dont really feel like stripping a carb :/

[TheBos89]

Who may I ask redid the carb for you and what did it cost?

I need mine done as its leaking and dont really feel like stripping a carb :/
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Hi Its a place in Vanderbijlpark called Carburettor centre 0169311823 they charge me R1100 for service re bush and CO setup on carb they only work on Original VW carbs cannot setup the Goldwagen or pirate parts

[buffyza]

Who may I ask redid the carb for you and what did it cost?

I need mine done as its leaking and dont really feel like stripping a carb :/

Hi Its a place in Vanderbijlpark called Carburettor centre 0169311823 they charge me R1100 for service re bush and CO setup on carb they only work on Original VW carbs cannot setup the Goldwagen or pirate parts
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Thats perfect thanks, I am in Alberton so not too far off!

I still have the original KS2 on it.

[dazza]

Correct carb with correct setup and 13" wheels is the way to go, but looks like its sorted now.
My 1.6 Citi Sport is so light on fuel I cant remember the last time I was at a filling station with it

[missioner]

Just for comparison purposes the best consumption I ever got from a 49l tank of fuel with my old 1300 motor was 580km, 80km daily commute travelling at 100km/h + most of the way. Average milage was 540ish kms.

Big bore 1900 gets closer to 700km from the same tank. Last year on a trip to Springs I got 743kms out of my tank of fuel. Drove up, drove around for the weekend and started the trip home on the same tank. Filled about 15l at Harrismith to complete the journey.

You would think the smaller motor would be better, but it's not. More torque equals better economy fuel wise.

When hoonigan mode = on a tank lasts 280km more or less.

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[TheBos89]

Thank you guys, so fitted 13" standard wheels best is now 11.7km/L with 3 guys in car almost 300kg me being the heaviest haha. so my thoughs as well the 1300 not very powerfull so struggle with the uphills on the n1 from vanderbijlpark to bryanston. so now i will be searching for at least a 1600 engine or do you guys suggest 1.8 or 2l that i can run carb but still get good fuel economy. if i drive like a grandma haha

[Wolf Mk2 16V]

The 1.6 and 1.8 are more economical, I think it boils down to being less strained... My Designa is about 10% lighter on fuel than my Chico was. It is tuned to be responsive though, I had one years ago that was very economical.

[TheBos89]

Ok so did 2 days of traveling 456km done filled up this morning used 38 liters so works out to average 11.6km/l and also found out I have the AUG 5 speed box apperently these are long ratio boxes that came with the 1800 cti might explain why I struggle with the uphills the 1300 motor just not enough torque to pull ratios. so if any one please know of a 1600 engine for sale in Gauteng Please PM me as I will be upgrading to 1600 at least as my budget will allow that if I could would go 1.4i or 2Li but management and everything just abit more than I can spend and at least the 1600 will be straight swop.