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Hi Guys
I am looking for some information to find a Rear wheel drive gearbox or All wheel drive gearbox that would fit on a Golf 2 2L motor.
If anyone knows which boxes will fit with little modification please let me know.

I am in the process of building a custom chassis but would need the box so that I can make sure to build it right the first time.

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Fit a cressida box and have a bell housing made?
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No dude all wheel (4 wheel drive) not rear wheel drive

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Carel040 wrote:No dude all wheel (4 wheel drive) not rear wheel drive

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Carel040 wrote:No dude all wheel (4 wheel drive) not rear wheel drive

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"Rear wheel drive gearbox or All wheel drive gearbox"
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Sorry bro as quoted Cressida 21R gearbox will be best suited for your application

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well how are you fitting the motor - transvere or longitudinal.
If you do RWD with a cressida box then speak to gilo engineering they have all kinds of adators and would have that most likely
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Or if you looking for a AWD box, use a 2.7 Hi Lux box.
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MrMazda wrote:Or if you looking for a AWD box, use a 2.7 Hi Lux box.
Depends on what its going into.
If its the Mk2 in the OP's signature, i'd think a Haldex setup from a 8L s3 would work perfect.
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:hurray: Haldex all the way
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What?! 21R and a Hilux 2.7 box....Please don't!

First of all its a VW not a Toyota.
Secondly the ratios will be all wrong ,even on a 2E or ABF.

Go for a first gen. Haldex (TT or S3)
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jouberrd wrote:What?! 21R and a Hilux 2.7 box....Please don't!

First of all its a VW not a Toyota.
Secondly the ratios will be all wrong ,even on a 2E or ABF.

Go for a first gen. Haldex (TT or S3)
Lol then it will be fwd with more weight :lol:
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ALRoN73 wrote:
jouberrd wrote:What?! 21R and a Hilux 2.7 box....Please don't!

First of all its a VW not a Toyota.
Secondly the ratios will be all wrong ,even on a 2E or ABF.

Go for a first gen. Haldex (TT or S3)
Lol then it will be fwd with more weight :lol:
Nope AWD! Quattro's the best!
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jouberrd wrote:
ALRoN73 wrote:
jouberrd wrote:What?! 21R and a Hilux 2.7 box....Please don't!

First of all its a VW not a Toyota.
Secondly the ratios will be all wrong ,even on a 2E or ABF.

Go for a first gen. Haldex (TT or S3)
Lol then it will be fwd with more weight :lol:
Nope AWD! Quattro's the best!
Nope!

Haldex is FWD until it detects slip then an amazing 30% gets sent to the rear

Wow such power transfer!
Such traction!


It’s not proper AWD

The longitudinal Motor Audi’s like my A8 have genuine AWD
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PoLonY wrote:
jouberrd wrote:
ALRoN73 wrote:
jouberrd wrote:What?! 21R and a Hilux 2.7 box....Please don't!

First of all its a VW not a Toyota.
Secondly the ratios will be all wrong ,even on a 2E or ABF.

Go for a first gen. Haldex (TT or S3)
Lol then it will be fwd with more weight :lol:
Nope AWD! Quattro's the best!
Nope!

Haldex is FWD until it detects slip then an amazing 30% gets sent to the rear

Wow such power transfer!
Such traction!


It’s not proper AWD

The longitudinal Motor Audi’s like my A8 have genuine AWD
Nope AWD! Quattro's the best!
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Hi Guy thanks for all the responses.
Sorry for the delayed reply have been busy with work.

I am not going to do the conversion in my current VW, this is a project car and would like to use the VW motor as I know it well.
I will be doing RWD as it will save some weight and space issues I am seeing with AWD.

I am currently only doing research on what would be best until I can start working on it again.

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Audi TT drive train might work?
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PoLonY wrote:
Nope!

Haldex is FWD until it detects slip then an amazing 30% gets sent to the rear

Wow such power transfer!
Such traction!


It’s not proper AWD

The longitudinal Motor Audi’s like my A8 have genuine AWD
That only applies for Gen2 haldex. Gen4 and Gen5 have electrical pump on them and send power to the rear before slip. From my logs it sends torque to the rear from standstill, any increase in engine load under part throttle and full throttle. Haldex clutches also recieve full clamping pressure when launch control is used.

But the clutches will slip if the propshaft torque goes over the clamping limit, think around
2000nm.
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Killerwatt wrote:
PoLonY wrote:
Nope!

Haldex is FWD until it detects slip then an amazing 30% gets sent to the rear

Wow such power transfer!
Such traction!


It’s not proper AWD

The longitudinal Motor Audi’s like my A8 have genuine AWD
That only applies for Gen2 haldex. Gen4 and Gen5 have electrical pump on them and send power to the rear before slip. From my logs it sends torque to the rear from standstill, any increase in engine load under part throttle and full throttle. Haldex clutches also recieve full clamping pressure when launch control is used.

But the clutches will slip if the prop shaft torque goes over the clamping limit, think around
2000nm.
Polony is correct regarding the GEN 1 Haldex

See link for differences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haldex_Traction

Volkswagen does not have "proper" RWD system unfortunately - will have to look at another brand - Go Toyota or BMW - Theres plenty of parts around
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So reading about this Haldex AWD system is more of a computerized AWD which I would not go for in this project if I do decide on AWD I would go for something I can have static in at 50% rear and 50% front even when the car is swithed off.
I currently do drive a AWD Ford which is very good but the trans is to expensive and big.

I am thinking of the Toyota RWD as I know the size is not that big and might fit well.

I would also need to go a little bigger on the wheels for more grip as the power output is more that I first wanted as it is all going to 2 wheels.

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