Mk1 Golf to TDi?

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:27 pm

Hey guys

found a smashed 2005 Polo 1.9 TDi.

Body is far gone but the motor and other internals are all in order. Just need to get another radiator and intercooler.

No my question is. How hard will it be to convert a Mk1 Golf (Petrol internals) to running the 1.9 TDi setup?

I'm just doing as much research as possible, budget won't be an issue.

Guidance needed from the forum gods

Post by **Howie-WP** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 5:53 pm

OP's forum name is apt .......

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:14 pm

Howie-WP wrote:OP's forum name is apt .......

lol what's that?

Post by **Howie-WP** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:43 pm

Mk1Crazee wrote:
Howie-WP wrote:OP's forum name is apt .......
lol what's that?

apt
adjective
1. appropriate or suitable in the circumstances.

chucker02 · Post by **chucker02** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:53 pm

There is a guy in bloem that has a tdi caddy. I think he also used a polo tdi motor. So strange hearing a caddy that sounds like a polo tdi

Post by **THANAS** » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:36 pm

Not any more difficult than putting a 1.8T with oem management into a Mk1, if you have a whole car as a donor. You will need to swap over the motor, gearbox, engine loom, pedal, all engine related sensors and cluster and have the immobiliser defeated on the ecu. You will also need the pump, not sure how the tank works with the PD motors. Additionally you will have to ground out or code out the various warning lights on the cluster like ABS/Airbags etc. It will be a great conversion though if you're willing to spend the time organising the wiring.

Carel040 · Post by **Carel040** » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:39 am

I think it's great idea would also like to take on a project like that but so space

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Carel040 · Post by **Carel040** » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:40 am

Mk one crazee what is the car going for

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missioner · Post by **missioner** » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:14 am

I saw a video of the caddy Chucker was talking about. That thing was maaaaad.

It can be done, true

Can you do it? Well that depends. How good is your welding and fabrication skill? Can you do car wiring?

Lastly decide how much time you are prepared to invest into the project. The aforementioned Caddy, the builder was expert welder and a mechanic by profession and it still took him more than 10 months to complete.

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:53 am

THANAS wrote:Not any more difficult than putting a 1.8T with oem management into a Mk1, if you have a whole car as a donor. You will need to swap over the motor, gearbox, engine loom, pedal, all engine related sensors and cluster and have the immobiliser defeated on the ecu. You will also need the pump, not sure how the tank works with the PD motors. Additionally you will have to ground out or code out the various warning lights on the cluster like ABS/Airbags etc. It will be a great conversion though if you're willing to spend the time organising the wiring.

Seems the wiring is the most time consuming, none of the engine mountings are damaged so i guess i could just weld those on to the golf.

I have experience wiring Fi cars just never did a Tdi before, hoping its similar.

Picked the polo up for R22k

Motor seems healthy though.

Anything else i need to know?

Will keep you guys posted, thanks for the responses

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:01 am

It is an awesome conversion if you have the patience tomsee it through. You have to move the fuel,cooler too if there is one on that car.

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:30 am

panic-mechanic wrote:It is an awesome conversion if you have the patience tomsee it through. You have to move the fuel,cooler too if there is one on that car.

I was thinking that. Would it be a good idea to cool the fuel on the return to tank?

Unobeat · Post by **Unobeat** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:21 am

Should be an interesting build project, start a ride thread of the project.

I remember some time ago, coming across a bettle with a 1.9tdi motor and it sounded good.

boost'd · Post by **boost'd** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:02 pm

engine mounts are the same used as in a 1.8T swap.
5 speed gearbox will make life easy.

will be awesome. killing to do one

Post by **Neuk** » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:46 pm

This...

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/03/the ... -mki-golf/

/thread

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 8:07 am

Unobeat wrote:Should be an interesting build project, start a ride thread of the project.

I remember some time ago, coming across a bettle with a 1.9tdi motor and it sounded good.

I'll start a thread once i've got everything.

Been thinking about this for a while.

amstel18 · Post by **amstel18** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:21 am

Neuk wrote:This...

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/03/the ... -mki-golf/

/thread

nice looking citi.
However theres only one pic of the engine bay which is useless

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:46 am

It wasn't a build thread or about the engine at all. It really was about the okes body work. He has a body shop...

Post by **Neuk** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:58 am

amstel18 wrote:
Neuk wrote:This...

http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/03/the ... -mki-golf/

/thread
nice looking citi.
However theres only one pic of the engine bay which is useless

It perfectly answers whether a modern TDi conversion in to a Mk1 shell can be done as well as the standard that can be achieved.

Post by **THANAS** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:09 am

There is a guide for the conversion online, I used a great guide put together by 'rubjohnny' that detailed the splicing of wires from the ecu and loom into both the CE1 and CE2 fuseboxes. There is a similar guide for the tdi if photorekit hasn't killed it.

Post by **Tman21** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:02 am

Just imagine the #hastagsTHANAS

#VelocitySleeperSooter. . . .

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:17 am

THANAS wrote:There is a guide for the conversion online, I used a great guide put together by 'rubjohnny' that detailed the splicing of wires from the ecu and loom into both the CE1 and CE2 fuseboxes. There is a similar guide for the tdi if photorekit hasn't killed it.

been looking all over, no detailed threads though. many guys from Europe done it

Mk1Crazee · Post by **Mk1Crazee** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:59 am

So guys, whats the difference between the 1.9TDi BXE and ASZ? I know this polo comes with the ASZ which seems to be common

Post by **Neuk** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:12 pm

Mk1Crazee wrote:So guys, whats the difference between the 1.9TDi BXE and ASZ? I know this polo comes with the ASZ which seems to be common

BXE - 77kw
ASZ - 96kw

Carel040 · Post by **Carel040** » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:24 pm

And the ATD lump aswell smaller turbo injectors and 5 speed box

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