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THE GAME
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Golf 3 VR6 Fuel PUMP

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Hi Peeps

My VR6 giving me some issues,
Saturday took it out, drove a while, went to Rosslyn Pta North and back
got home and switched off, not even 10 mins later I tried to move it into the garage
and she refused to start, swings oneway,
I cant hear my pump coming on,

I checked the fuse 18 and its fine, I need to check now the relay
but which relay is for the fuel pump,

What is the best way to diagnose to see if the pump is working or if its not getting power

I tried to google pics but vortex gives me so many different type relays
I need to know which slot is for the fuel pump relay and then go to the pump n check if it died,

any advise please
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Re: Golf 3 VR6 Fuel PUMP

Post by UDC »

put a light tester on the pump end and test if its getting power whenever you turn the key on and off etc
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Pump is in tank.
Remove tank cap under boot carpet .
Look at the plug, it will have two thin wires and two thicker wires,
Pull it off and with a voltmeter/ test light test across the thick wires, should be the outer two.
Should have power when you crank it.
If there is power there then the pump is dead.
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Re: Golf 3 VR6 Fuel PUMP

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Oki cool
so a test light can work,

if the light comes on with my key on and the pump is not making a bzzz or jump out
then its definitely my pump.

Should I check the relay 1st or the pump itself,


Sweet thanks UDC And Stephan
I will update tonite
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Re: Golf 3 VR6 Fuel PUMP

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if the test light comes on then its definitely the pump, only bother with the relay/wiring if the test light does not come on when testing.

Also remember that the pump primes for a few seconds first then goes off when ignition is switched on but car not started, so either connect the test light to somewhere you can see it whilst turning the ignition on and off or get someone to assist you or be quick about it
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Re: Golf 3 VR6 Fuel PUMP

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UDC wrote:if the test light comes on then its definitely the pump, only bother with the relay/wiring if the test light does not come on when testing.

Also remember that the pump primes for a few seconds first then goes off when ignition is switched on but car not started, so either connect the test light to somewhere you can see it whilst turning the ignition on and off or get someone to assist you or be quick about it
Oki sweet,
these damm pumps are like over 4k from the agents
Diesel electric in Pretoria west doesn't even list them,

Some guys say the Golfwagen pump doesn't last to long, but I spoke to the guys at GW Delarey
they reckon its a Meyle pump and meyle a good make
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Yes Meyle is good.....but test for power at the pump end first
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UDC wrote:Yes Meyle is good.....but test for power at the pump end first
Shot Meneer I will update tomorrow :thumbup:
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So after 13 years of ownership the pump shes dead :( :roll:

Will have to order one,
now should I go with bosch or a GW make,

ima try and get quotes I know the agents are crazy, almost 5k
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for Bosch try Diesel Electric.....hopefully the price is better
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UDC wrote:for Bosch try Diesel Electric.....hopefully the price is better
I noticed the original unit is a VDO unit
will it be a problem using a Bosch or Meyle unit,
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no...as long as its for mk3 Gti/VR6 the pump will be a plug and play setup
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UDC wrote:no...as long as its for mk3 Gti/VR6 the pump will be a plug and play setup
Shot my man
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Had to do a fuel pump on my E30 agents wanted a few key the most economical way out for me was a walbro pump lots of videos on YouTube to retrofit it


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THE GAME wrote:
UDC wrote:no...as long as its for mk3 Gti/VR6 the pump will be a plug and play setup
Shot my man
Mo please advise on the best price when you get one, i also need one
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AyaThatGuy wrote:
THE GAME wrote:
UDC wrote:no...as long as its for mk3 Gti/VR6 the pump will be a plug and play setup
Shot my man
Mo please advise on the best price when you get one, i also need one
Keep the Vaseline ready
this was one item that always scared me,
13 years later it decided, so I don't feel bad :grin:
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THE GAME wrote:
UDC wrote:if the test light comes on then its definitely the pump, only bother with the relay/wiring if the test light does not come on when testing.

Also remember that the pump primes for a few seconds first then goes off when ignition is switched on but car not started, so either connect the test light to somewhere you can see it whilst turning the ignition on and off or get someone to assist you or be quick about it
Oki sweet,
these damm pumps are like over 4k from the agents
Diesel electric in Pretoria west doesn't even list them,

Some guys say the Golfwagen pump doesn't last to long, but I spoke to the guys at GW Delarey
they reckon its a Meyle pump and meyle a good make

Meyle pumps from Goldwagen are good. I bought one for my VR6 about 5 years ago, when the original pump died, and it's still going strong.
Current:'97 Jetta VR6
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Dub Addiction wrote:
THE GAME wrote:
UDC wrote:if the test light comes on then its definitely the pump, only bother with the relay/wiring if the test light does not come on when testing.

Also remember that the pump primes for a few seconds first then goes off when ignition is switched on but car not started, so either connect the test light to somewhere you can see it whilst turning the ignition on and off or get someone to assist you or be quick about it
Oki sweet,
these damm pumps are like over 4k from the agents
Diesel electric in Pretoria west doesn't even list them,

Some guys say the Golfwagen pump doesn't last to long, but I spoke to the guys at GW Delarey
they reckon its a Meyle pump and meyle a good make

Meyle pumps from Goldwagen are good. I bought one for my VR6 about 5 years ago, when the original pump died, and it's still going strong.
Thanks for this
Im just waiting a quote for a Bosch pump then I can decide
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any update?
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When I went FI on my old golf I bought one of the cheapy pumps, R295 and it lasted for a year before I sold the car, and it's probably still going strong. I should also probably mention it went through torture that not many pumps would survive while I was experimenting with the idea of an in tank pump for a mk1.
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Wheelwore wrote:any update?
Ordered a bosch pump from Diesel electric
Got one at Wynberg,

will get someone to assist me in fitting it onto my fuel sender and stuff,

R 1400+vat
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I am just hoping its a direct fit with no mods required
Agents complete VDO unit is R 7100 lol
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