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hi ive recently joined the forum because I have a series of questions that I cannot find anywhere. I have a mk1 golf 85 1600 carb that im busy converting to euro rabbit. last nite the car was fine concerning engine, after I came from work my gf picked me up in my car, when I got in and started, the car would refuse to idle. it starts and everything as long as I keep the revs up. but dies once I let go off accelerator pedal. any thoughts?
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If you pull the choke does it make any difference?
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Thats it my choke messed up. It wont come out if I pull

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rabbit'85 wrote:Thats it my choke messed up. It wont come out if I pull

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Manually pull it on the carb, Not sure how cause I've never owned a carb motor but it should be simple.

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If I can spot it on wer to pull it by then engine then I would do so.

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I had the same problem on a 99 Chico 1.6
In the end got a Goldwagen "pirate" carb and slapped it on (well I got the workshop up the road to do it)
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Does the carb come with an fuel cut-off solenoid - if it does make sure the solenoid opens when you switch the ignition on. You should hear it click...
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Some advice I got when I had a few random carb issues...
  • Remove carb from engine
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    Buy FI parts
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Anyway, does it not idle when hot and cold? Or either or? As Torker suggests, check the cut off solenoid and go from there...

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If I recall you can buy MP9 head + FI, ECU, wire harness for R6000 from Bishops in Edenvale
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The solenoid is fine. I hear the click. Car starts no problem just 1 swing then it take but dies if I do not keep my foot on acc pedal. Sum1 suggested that I should check the throttle response as well as the air/fuel mixture. He sed it could be adjusted on the carb by some kinda pins. Is it worth checking it out.

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Was thinking of going mp9. Got cylinder head, loom, and box for 1500. And to neuk, its the 85 model the one jst after euro spec

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Check the idle and mixture screws if the cut off solenoid is fine, I can't remember what the settings are, they will differ from engine to engine...

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Lol I no its citi golf. But looks more rabbit for me. So I jst get sum1 to keep the engine on a rev then turn pins to my desired settings?

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I would rather get the stock settings, leave engine off, set the carb on the stock settings, start engine and adjust from there...

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The guy I bort my fenders from has a 2door. Looks beautiful. How would I get the stock settings

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I would start with Google, else check some where like here...

http://vwgolfmk1.org.uk/index.php

A Haynes manual might have it as well, I know GaVeN on this forum has a book that has all the settings that we use when we service my MkI Golf.
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Thanks a mil ill check it out

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idling jet (solenoid) Is usually the culprit. Have you checked for a leak on the base plate? Take some Carb cleaner and spray it along the base of the carb while car is running... if the revs drop then replace the base plate.
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That was another suggestion thanks blou_poot

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No problem... Carbs are funny...
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Yes starting to figure out. Still busy saving for mp9

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Rather go aftermarket, Doing my mp9 now... and found out to late that aftermarket would have been better for future... mp9 is expensive in Namibia.
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What you mean by afyermarket

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First off nice ride,rabbit looks awesome so do it and post a lot of pics :drool: .

Aftermarket like gotech, dictator and so on engine managment systems.

Can't remember the stock carb that well but the cut-off solinoid should get its power from the coil, so you can unplug it and plug back to hear if it switches while ignition is on.

Could also be dirt in carb. You can remove filter pipes from carb, rev it a little then put your hand on the carb and take it off as the engine is about to die.

Think you can get a carb kit with correct jets from goldwagen,if you want to clean and get carb back to stock.

Stupid question but did you check that the air filter is still good?
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Re: mk1 golf 85 1600 carb not idleing
First off nice ride,rabbit looks awesome so do it and post a lot of pics :drool: .

Aftermarket like gotech, dictator and so on engine managment systems.

Can't remember the stock carb that well but the cut-off solinoid should get its power from the coil, so you can unplug it and plug back to hear if it switches while ignition is on.

Could also be dirt in carb. You can remove filter pipes from carb, rev it a little then put your hand on the carb and take it off as the engine is about to die.

Think you can get a carb kit with correct jets from goldwagen,if you want to clean and get carb back to stock.

Stupid question but did you check that the air filter is still good?
last time i thought my idling jet went turned out to be the coil not giving enough power. plugged up the solenoid directly to the battery just to get her home
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