Polo vivo 1.4 fuel pump relay ?

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Polo vivo 1.4 fuel pump relay ?

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Daughter just bought a 2010 1.4 Polo Vivo with 112,000 on the clock. Goes like the clappers, idles perfectly. Yet twice in the last 5 days it won't start. Swings over perfectly, battery top notch. Seems like no fuel.
Vroetel with the gas pedal down on the floor and she starts !

Found a friendly man this morning with a laptop and code reader - Fuel pump relay error , shorts to earth I think it said. He can replace it Friday for about 350 to 450. This sound reasonable?

Thanks for your help guys.

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This sound ok folks ?

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Call mantech and price a 4 way Siemens relay. Then you'll have a DIY comparison. You could also test the relay with a tester or multimeter to determine if that really is the problem. Else you'll be paying 400 and the problem will persist.

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Thanks , i'll phone. I saw the error on the laptop myself so assuming it must be true?
There were no other errors after about 10 minutes of scrolling.

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Ps where is the relay ? Ta

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Whilst I'm looking for the relay, tried to show her where the front tow eye was ????Having a bad hair day….. :cry:
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duncang wrote:Ps where is the relay ? Ta

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Look in the owners manual, it should be listed along with fuses
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A sad day indeed…… 4 hours at the auto electrician and I have got no further.

The story so far. My car's VIN is as follows ; AAVZZZ6SZAU011942 2010 1.4 POLO Vivo

He bought a relay numbered 4HO 951 253 A. Number 645 on the top. Could not find where to fit it ? RH door side seems to be just fuses. Under steering wheel were 3 relays , 370 , 167 and 109. He did not know which could be the fuel pump relay.

I then went to VW and their Diagnostic Manager told me the relay is wrong and it should have bigger pins. Would not say where it should be fitted or tell me which the correct number relay was…..

Bad PR considering I have just bought a VW and live near his garage !!!

Long and short of it , R250 for the diagnosis , R221 for the relay and I'm back to square one.

Eish , any suggestions ?
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Trace the fuel pump wire back from the pump to the relay. Note colour etc.

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Seems not too many people know where the pump or the relay is ?:roll:
Visiting spares shops and speaking to a few Polo owners over the weekend , it seems I am the only person in the country that does not know about this common fault !
Wonder why there was no recall....
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If it was a common problem than people would be able to assist you, so its not a common problem. Look in the owners manual, it should be listed in there, as I already told you
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Nothing in the booklet about relays. Only fuses.
Thanks anyway.

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Check below the steering, on the left of the light switch you will find a panel that clips off, inside that panel is the relays.

Tow hook is under the drivers side bumper grill. :thumbup:
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No one can find the relay.....is there maybe a non return valve anywhere ?
If parked on a hill for a day she struggled to start. Run it to level ground and all is well :?:

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Now takes 5 attempts before starting even when parked on the level for 12 hours...?

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Been starting on and off for 4 months but started to battle again the last week?

Still no one can tell me where the relay is ? How do I find out?

Someone says the key may be faulty? New battery maybe in the key?

Does a fuel pump play up then work then play up?

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Can I use the following when I find where it is situated ?

Hella 4RA 965.400-001?
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Want to post a picture of the relay I have . How to get permission?
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VW here is now talking about a charcoal valve at R1250 ! What could that be ?
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Found relays under the steering wheel.
Looking fron drivers seat;
370 on left. Steel square. Middle is small plastic one marked v404. Rh side is 167. Also steel square.
Top row rh side another square steel no. 109 but upside down.
Now which of those could be the fuel pump relay?

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Its number 167. Dealer R485. Goldwagen R115. Fitted free by Kurt in Krugersdorp Wednesday. Car started perfectly since then.

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duncang wrote:Its number 167. Dealer R485. Goldwagen R115. Fitted free by Kurt in Krugersdorp Wednesday. Car started perfectly since then.

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Thanks for updating your thread bud. My sister inlaw got stuck yesterday with her 1.4 vivo. Car was swinging but refused to start. After several attempts its started and we got the car home. Today it refused to start again. After reading your post i tried swinging about 5 times and it still refused to start. I got to the relays under the steering column and tapped the one a bit and the car started so its seems to be a faulty relay.

The car is still under warranty so it will be taken to VW to sort out :cool:
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I'm having trouble finding the fuel pump relay on the so's 6R polo 1.4. Goldwagen say they dont have a fuel pump relay listed for 6R polo or vivo :???:

Checked the manual for relay location, nothing. Searched on google but cant seem to find anything.

I will try checking under the steering column later today, hopefully its there.

@duncang do you perhaps have a part number so I can check again with GW?
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My Polo Vivo 2010 has the same problem.
I managed to locate the relay, but cant get it out.
Can you please tell my how to remove the relay?
The not so friendly sales men at the spare shops tells me it should just pull out. It does not.
Please help?
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