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duncan wrote:
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Do u have a progressive 57-63mm or straight through 63mm?

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Split exhaust, 53-63mm. Yip that's all you will need to jump to 16v.
Barney1212 wrote:estats 282 perfect power branch and a exhaust which then realised what teh problem when i went 20v.

made 100hp atw.

100hp in a citi shell is still plenty
100hp? how much would that be in kw? I get k@k confused, dont know how to convert. Down in CPT people speak about KW only.
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The Gti Guy wrote:Guys

Supaquick is having a sale with their Stainless Steel free flow exhausts for R999 would this be a good investment and on par with what a powerflow exhaust would give me?

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Barney

Isit worthwhile? Or should I just go to powerflow?

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look if the bends are proper and dont compress then its ok. i did not check and the bends from my 57mm went down to 27mm and is the reason i made such poor power. i would rather get it done from somewhere i know it would be done right the first time
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Hi, Everyone

So by the looks of things I'm finally upgrading my induction to the OEM flatpad filter box. Just 1 question the pipe from the throttle to the box does it have to be oem or can I get a plastic pipe with silicone bends like some guys on the forum are doing? Ofcoz then I'll seal it with some clamps. Thanx for the help already I'm expecting to be swamped with informative responses.

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The Gti Guy wrote:Hi, Everyone

So by the looks of things I'm finally upgrading my induction to the OEM flatpad filter box. Just 1 question the pipe from the throttle to the box does it have to be oem or can I get a plastic pipe with silicone bends like some guys on the forum are doing? Ofcoz then I'll seal it with some clamps. Thanx for the help already I'm expecting to be swamped with informative responses.

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Yeah bud you will be fine with an aftermarket pipe. Get one of those aluminium ones, thats what I am using, you just need one straight silicone piece to connect the pipe to the airbox. If you get the right pipe it will come with the reducer from the pipe to the airbox
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Methanol

What's a reducer?
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look at the picture, you will see the silicone connector between the airbox and aluminium in take pipe and then you will see the reducer between the aluminium intake pipe and the throttle body. It allows you to connect the larger diameter aluminium pipe to the smaller diameter throttle body, reducing in size from one diameter to another

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The Gti Guy wrote:Thanx Methanol
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Methanol or any1 else with advice is more than welcome to chip in here. I spoke to my friend who says the long metal pipe with the cone that upon installation sits just behind the headlight is also a good CAI set up and if ur car is modded will yield greater gains than the standard airbox with flat filter? Is this true?

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The Gti Guy wrote:Methanol or any1 else with advice is more than welcome to chip in here. I spoke to my friend who says the long metal pipe with the cone that upon installation sits just behind the headlight is also a good CAI set up and if ur car is modded will yield greater gains than the standard airbox with flat filter? Is this true?

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Well from what has been discussed on the forum quite a few times as well as various tests done by various guys, there are no appreciable gains to be had by adding a cone filter. There are three main reasons why guys use cone filters, the first and most common reason is because it can give a more aggressive intake sound, making a car sound mean (think of all the 1.4i Citi Golf's that run them). The second reason is because people are sheep, if someone who you consider to be "cool" or "the man" uses one on his/her car, the vast majority of people will copy that person if they don't know any better. The third reason, and this is more practical is simply due to space issues. This is most often found when people do turbo conversions on engines that didn't have a turbo from the factory. Boost pipes and turbo location can sometimes result in there being no space for an airbox. You get the guys with the MK5/6/7 gti's that change to a cone filter because they often change to an aftermarket intake pipe, or throttle pipe as some call it. This aftermarket pipe often isn't designed to work with the OEM airbox, thus they use a cone filter instead.
Also if you are running an ITB(independent throttle body) or side draught carb setup, you can't use the standard airbox most of the time.

I am running an MP9 airbox on my engine, the only thing I have changed on it is de-trumpeted the airbox which gives it a nicer sound but doesn't compromise it's ability to filter in coming air. The air intake of the MP9 airbox sits right behind the headlights, so there is no reason to get a cone filter and place it behind the headlights, because that is exactly where my airbox sits already
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To some it up, Mp9 airbox is better.
Does the Mp9 airbox make the car slightly lighter on fuel?

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The Gti Guy wrote:Methanol

To some it up, Mp9 airbox is better.
Does the Mp9 airbox make the car slightly lighter on fuel?

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Well I personally haven't used a cone filter and don't ever plan to do so in this N/A setup.
But judging by the general consensus, the MP9 airbox is better than a cone filter.

Yes you will also get better fuel economy with the airbox and the paper filter works better than the majority of the cone filters when it comes to actually filtering the air!!
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Thanx Methanol :hug:
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What oil do you recommend I use? I want to use 15w40 getting my oil changed in the week.

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The Gti Guy wrote:Methanol

What oil do you recommend I use? I want to use 15w40 getting my oil changed in the week.

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I use the Shell Helix 15w40 in the Yellow bottle, its great oil, many guys use it!! Personally I think Shell is better than Castrol, on our older motors anyway.
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Thanx Methanol I also want 15w40 from shell just needed a general consensus on this topic.

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Guys

My throttlebody gave in so I got myself a Mp9 t/b problem is now the car is overfueling like a mofo idling like a truck and use like 7L of fuel for 15km. Subsequently I parked the car and now is going to fix. Would I need to Dyno tune again? If so I think I'm going to do everything I want like 57mm exhaust, 282 estas and headwork. I also want to add polymounts would this also be a good mod?

Please advise.

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The Gti Guy wrote:Guys

My throttlebody gave in so I got myself a Mp9 t/b problem is now the car is overfueling like a mofo idling like a truck and use like 7L of fuel for 15km. Subsequently I parked the car and now is going to fix. Would I need to Dyno tune again? If so I think I'm going to do everything I want like 57mm exhaust, 282 estas and headwork. I also want to add polymounts would this also be a good mod?

Please advise.

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Only reason the throttle body will cause the engine to over fuel is if the TPS is faulty (or needs calibration), fooling the ECU into thinking that the throttle is wider open than what it really is. Poly mountings is always a good mod, I use Prothane in the front mount, Wikus's custom gearbox mount in the rear and solid Goldwagon press-fit mountings on the sides. Engine movement is minimal = better traction and gear shifts.
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Thanks TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) can I only replace this? Can you maybe send a pic? Then I can get it and install my old Ady T/B again. How's the vibration with the polymounts?

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TPS is integrated with the idle motor in the same housing so I don't know if it's possible to replace it. You can open it up and give it a good clean with electrical contact cleaner and see if it helps. Vibration is not too bad, my GT is stripped out - no carpets, sound deadening and hard coilies and I love it. It all depends on what you can live with at the end of the day...
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Thanks. I'll try that over the weekend. True hey but I'll get me those mounts all in the name of power... Wouldn't it be better if I just get myself an Ady T/B? Not in a real hurry as I'm driving my fiance's 1.4i at the moment.

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The Gti Guy wrote:Torker

Thanks. I'll try that over the weekend. True hey but I'll get me those mounts all in the name of power... Wouldn't it be better if I just get myself an Ady T/B? Not in a real hurry as I'm driving my fiance's 1.4i at the moment.

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If you stick an ADY t/b back in and it might be close enough to the original (calibration wise) to work.
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Thanks x1000000000000000000

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