Citi Golf gearing issue
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- Cake Laaitie Killer
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Citi Golf gearing issue
Guys,
A few months ago my releaser bearing gave way (popped & had little bearing babies) after many years of awesome service I replaced it with a WAG item from GW which lasted about a month. I replaced that with an OEM bearing & all is happy for about 2 months now & she started to whine when hot only. Now when my car gets hot it is almost impossible to select 1st & 2nd when stationary only which moving at low speeds, you have fight with the box or give up switch of, select gear start & move which takes time especially in traffic, also when I press the clutch I get this horrid whine (releaser bearing maybe again? but only when car up to full opt temp?)
My clutch also takes almost at the floor when hot & sometimes even with the clutch pressed my car will move forward, this happens randomly but not often.
I feel it could be my pressure plate failing, worn push rod, selector arm cracked, or maybe even less oil in the box or maybe combination of what I said
My clutch/pressure plate is about 4years. What could be the issue?
Sorry for the long post
A few months ago my releaser bearing gave way (popped & had little bearing babies) after many years of awesome service I replaced it with a WAG item from GW which lasted about a month. I replaced that with an OEM bearing & all is happy for about 2 months now & she started to whine when hot only. Now when my car gets hot it is almost impossible to select 1st & 2nd when stationary only which moving at low speeds, you have fight with the box or give up switch of, select gear start & move which takes time especially in traffic, also when I press the clutch I get this horrid whine (releaser bearing maybe again? but only when car up to full opt temp?)
My clutch also takes almost at the floor when hot & sometimes even with the clutch pressed my car will move forward, this happens randomly but not often.
I feel it could be my pressure plate failing, worn push rod, selector arm cracked, or maybe even less oil in the box or maybe combination of what I said
My clutch/pressure plate is about 4years. What could be the issue?
Sorry for the long post
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
anyone
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Did you replace only the bearing? And ScottiesKJ may be on to something, if a pressure plate wears unevenly or is installed incorrectly it doesn't provide balanced pressure which can cause issues...
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Yupp just the bearing, is there something that was supposed to be changed as well?
Well this issue only cropped up since my releaser bearing popped a few months ago. Never had this problem before
Well this issue only cropped up since my releaser bearing popped a few months ago. Never had this problem before
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Solo786 wrote:after you bust the rsi , should have put down the window and asked "Do you even lift bro?"
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
When the thrust/release bearing went on my Variant, I had the bearing, fork, pressure plate, clutch plate, etc replace but mainly because they looked like this...Naku786 wrote:Yupp just the bearing, is there something that was supposed to be changed as well?
Well this issue only cropped up since my releaser bearing popped a few months ago. Never had this problem before
The fork was actually bent...
Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2014 VW Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
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Previous Garage:
Roxy: 2015 VW Golf R
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's
Daily Drive: 2014 VW Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window
Previous Garage:
Roxy: 2015 VW Golf R
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
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Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Hmmm ok, the releaser bearing on a citi box (FFZ,DDG etc) is located behind a green (generally) backing plate which looks like so
Once cover removed the bearing fits into a a small housing under the selector looks like this
Pic of bearing
You can do this with the box on, just remove passenger front wheel, jack up. You could loosing the mounting but not necessary
Once cover removed the bearing fits into a a small housing under the selector looks like this
Pic of bearing
You can do this with the box on, just remove passenger front wheel, jack up. You could loosing the mounting but not necessary
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
was this car is use before you did that... fok meNeuk wrote:When the thrust/release bearing went on my Variant, I had the bearing, fork, pressure plate, clutch plate, etc replace but mainly because they looked like this...Naku786 wrote:Yupp just the bearing, is there something that was supposed to be changed as well?
Well this issue only cropped up since my releaser bearing popped a few months ago. Never had this problem before
The fork was actually bent...
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Solo786 wrote:after you bust the rsi , should have put down the window and asked "Do you even lift bro?"
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Not for quite some time and it was a rookie mistake for me not to have that lot replaced...Naku786 wrote:was this car is use before you did that... fok me
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
is the car a daily driver?
what the pressure plate looks like.
the middle part wears out and as Nic says it can wear unevenly. If you are planning on stripping out the box to check that. check the copper bush on the motor side of the gear box. its behind the button seal where the push rode goes through
like so
I was told that if that copper bush wears it can cause problems with the push rode.
what the pressure plate looks like.
the middle part wears out and as Nic says it can wear unevenly. If you are planning on stripping out the box to check that. check the copper bush on the motor side of the gear box. its behind the button seal where the push rode goes through
like so
I was told that if that copper bush wears it can cause problems with the push rode.
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
gonna strip & fit new clutch/pressure plate this weekend bud. thanks for the info will check
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Pressure plate was fubar, replaced with a SACHS item... but my selector arm was cracked as well! FML... managed to get a second hand one at the scrappy & all is well now... feel like I have more power too
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Solo786 wrote:after you bust the rsi , should have put down the window and asked "Do you even lift bro?"
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
Glad to hear is well againNaku786 wrote:Pressure plate was fubar, replaced with a SACHS item... but my selector arm was cracked as well! FML... managed to get a second hand one at the scrappy & all is well now... feel like I have more power too
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Re: Citi Golf gearing issue
BAM Success...Naku786 wrote:Pressure plate was fubar, replaced with a SACHS item... but my selector arm was cracked as well! FML... managed to get a second hand one at the scrappy & all is well now... feel like I have more power too
Current Garage:
Daily Drive: 2014 VW Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window
Previous Garage:
Roxy: 2015 VW Golf R
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's
Daily Drive: 2014 VW Touareg 3.0 V6 TDi R-Line
Project Fes: 1982 VW Golf GLS 1.5
Project FeO: 1966 VW Type 2 Transporter Kombi Split Window
Previous Garage:
Roxy: 2015 VW Golf R
Vagon: 2005 Audi B6 A4 1.8T (140kw) Avant
Project XXXX: 1967 VW Type 3 Variant (Squareback)
Project Betty: 2005 Polo 1.9 TDI (PD130) Sportline
Weekend Warrior: 1993 Volkswagen Caddy 2.0 16v ABF on ITB's