282 clearance question

[Vinnige Fanie]

I THINK it has something to do with the 16v moving the torque up very high into the rev band where engines tend to make more HP than torque..Like I said I THINK don't quote me on this.

[Nellis]

I THINK it has something to do with the 16v moving the torque up very high into the rev band where engines tend to make more HP than torque..Like I said I THINK don't quote me on this.

J-B, I suspect that this graph explains your "THINK"...

But afterall; Dudley did say: "I know buddy, but I want something with more midrange oomph. I asked Nellis, and he didn't even hesitate to answer".

CK 11403: Std ABF on MP9 with UniQ. (Belongs to Mean Caddy)

CK 13311: 2.0 8v, ported x/f head, Brospeed branch, 50mm exhaust, our 282 cam & UniQ. (Belongs to his son).

[Dono82]

I will take the 8v anyday

[chucker02]

sorry for the hi jack but can i put a 282cam in my ADY? i am still running a carb. will i have issues with fuelling?

[Vinnige Fanie]

I THINK it has something to do with the 16v moving the torque up very high into the rev band where engines tend to make more HP than torque..Like I said I THINK don't quote me on this.

J-B, I suspect that this graph explains your "THINK"...

But afterall; Dudley did say: "I know buddy, but I want something with more midrange oomph. I asked Nellis, and he didn't even hesitate to answer".

CK 11403: Std ABF on MP9 with UniQ. (Belongs to Mean Caddy)

CK 13311: 2.0 8v, ported x/f head, Brospeed branch, 50mm exhaust, our 282 cam & UniQ. (Belongs to his son).

Thanks for clearing that up I need to get to the coast and see what I make there.

[Nellis]

J-B, I'll ask (if I remember) Kosie tomorrow for the graph of this ABF with our 272 compared to the same 8v. I can remember that the peak kW was 142. The torque escapes me now. Will check on it. But, anyhow, it will show on the comparative graph.

[Mean Caddy]

Hello. Was 142KW en 217NM.

[Vinnige Fanie]

That is some great power wonder how the 276 cams will do down at the coast.

Mean Caddy what mods are done to your abf?

[Dono82]

Its just my input, but a 2L 8v with nice head job 276cam nice branch and exhaust and a proper tune....

Honestly is really strong.....not saying its better than abf or anything.

But had this inmy golf, i made 93wkw and and my Dad tuned the car so nice. Had power from right down at the bottom till about 6500rpm.

And that was still with stock exhaust manifold and downpipe

[Naku786]

Its just my input, but a 2L 8v with nice head job 276cam nice branch and exhaust and a proper tune....

Honestly is really strong.....not saying its better than abf or anything.

But had this inmy golf, i made 93wkw and and my Dad tuned the car so nice. Had power from right down at the bottom till about 6500rpm.

And that was still with stock exhaust manifold and downpipe

[zain_c]

8v anyday for me too all smiles everyday. Trackdays are the best...the torque, thats the one thing i miss about my citi. Made 98wkw and ripped many cars a**hole apart.

[Fran]

Hi Dudley

If you want midrange torque, move to the coast!!

With the 298 cam there is a big dip in the midrange. Top end is great!

[Psycho8v]

Blerrie helle Nellis, that 8V is torquey, in the mid-section, right where I want it.

And yes, I still remain with my original decision. 282 FTW. On an 8V for life.

I will take the 8v anyday

After seeing the likes of Torker and feeling the pull of Fran's golf, I really fell in love with an 8V motor. Like I said, it'll be hard to persuade me otherwise.

[Psycho8v]

Hi Dudley

If you want midrange torque, move to the coast!!

With the 298 cam there is a big dip in the midrange. Top end is great!

Hahahaha. The coast will be an awesome idea, but a bigger cam will be cheaper.

I'll seriously consider going bigger once it's not my daily anymore, because then I can afford to be without my car for some time, and get a nice management system fitted.

sorry for the hi jack but can i put a 282cam in my ADY? i am still running a carb. will i have issues with fuelling?

Hey bud, you will be able to put in a 282 in your ADY, I also have an ADY, but running FI. To get your carb sorted, I'm sure Panic Mechanic will be able to sort you out. I think they play around with the jetting on the carb untill it's spot on, also if he helps you do it, he's got a dyno, so you'll be sure when it leaves there it'll be perfectly tuned.

[Vinnige Fanie]

Where do people come with this thing that a 8V makes more torque than a 16v?

[Psycho8v]

Where do people come with this thing that a 8V makes more torque than a 16v?

You've lost me bud, or are you talking in general now?

[Fran]

Dudley, your car might be very shaky and unhappy under 2000rpm if you use a larger cam. Forgot if you experience any of that with your current set-up?

[Vinnige Fanie]

Mid range is from 3000-4500 yes? I am sure there will be more than enough to get by my car is making 1.6 power there and its very drive able pulls enough to get past cars etc. Still think you need to ask Scratch and they guys that have had the 282 and went 288 instead.

[Psycho8v]

Dudley, your car might be very shaky and unhappy under 2000rpm if you use a larger cam. Forgot if you experience any of that with your current set-up?

Yeah buddy, it happens now even with the 268 in. Especially when she's cold. I'm semi used to that already.

Mid range is from 3000-4500 yes? I am sure there will be more than enough to get by my car is making 1.6 power there and its very drive able pulls enough to get past cars etc. Still think you need to ask Scratch and they guys that have had the 282 and went 288 instead.

Buddy, the 282 will be more than fine. I have a flowed head as well, so the 282 will be in it's happy place. Coming from a 268, it'll be a nice jump in power. But also, the 268 is very punchy in the lowrange and midrange, I really don't want to sacrifice too much of that now, as I've grown used to it, and love it. I'm sure I'll be happy with it.







If not, you can tell me : "told you so."

[Torker]

Dudley, your car might be very shaky and unhappy under 2000rpm if you use a larger cam. Forgot if you experience any of that with your current set-up?

A skilled tuner can dial most of it out, unfortunately it involves a very rich mixture (11.5 AFR) that can impact negatively on fuel consumption.

[Vinnige Fanie]

Mid range is from 3000-4500 yes? I am sure there will be more than enough to get by my car is making 1.6 power there and its very drive able pulls enough to get past cars etc. Still think you need to ask Scratch and they guys that have had the 282 and went 288 instead.

Buddy, the 282 will be more than fine. I have a flowed head as well, so the 282 will be in it's happy place. Coming from a 268, it'll be a nice jump in power. But also, the 268 is very punchy in the lowrange and midrange, I really don't want to sacrifice too much of that now, as I've grown used to it, and love it. I'm sure I'll be happy with it.







If not, you can tell me : "told you so."

Do you use your car to tow a caravan or to enjoy the drive why do you need lots of power low down? Think I am just to used to rev happy power I like my Dubtec

[Naku786]

Dudley, your car might be very shaky and unhappy under 2000rpm if you use a larger cam. Forgot if you experience any of that with your current set-up?

A skilled tuner can dial most of it out, unfortunately it involves a very rich mixture (11.5 AFR) that can impact negatively on fuel consumption.

+1, my car with a 298 idles at 900rpm... no bouncing

[IronG]

I just wanted to ask the 282 clearance question just now and here it is, already answered!
I've got a question regarding my own build (sorry for this)....
Will I need to change anything on my current setup for the 282 Estas cam (should be getting stock in two weeks time according to Jacques at Sportcam, spoke to him on Monday)
I have a 2.0 ADY with Polocup ECU (stock 1.4i exhaust, will do that after the cam). My car goes up to 180 quite quickly, but I recon the exhaust is to blame for it not going much faster than that...
I see that the Polocup ECU was setup for a 288cam so I should be fine?
Sorry for the jack, just wanted to ask while it's not *too of topic

[Torker]

Do you use your car to tow a caravan or to enjoy the drive why do you need lots of power low down? Think I am just to used to rev happy power I like my Dubtec

There's something special about having a strong motor with plenty of torque in a lightweight car, you can floor it in any gear at any rpm's and it will just go, if you battle with traction in 1st just use 2nd gear...

[Naku786]

Do you use your car to tow a caravan or to enjoy the drive why do you need lots of power low down? Think I am just to used to rev happy power I like my Dubtec

There's something special about having a strong motor with plenty of torque in a lightweight car, you can floor it in any gear at any rpm's and it will just go, if you battle with traction in 1st just use 2nd gear...

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