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Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 am
by Neuk
If I had a choice, I wouldn't go near Castrol, I have used Shell for years on all my cars and have been very happy with it.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:37 pm
by Marius Swart
Thanks , a friend of mine can get me the edge 5w30 for R110 per litre . Decided to go with that , willkeep you posted.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:22 pm
by Marius Swart
Neuk wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 am If I had a choice, I wouldn't go near Castrol, I have used Shell for years on all my cars and have been very happy with it.
Why not Castrol ? I ran helix on all my vehicles , however after my wifes yaris service plan stopped i went from Toyota oil (total) to helix and found the engine more noisy than before , but i never had any issues with helix.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:14 am
by Valcon
I've tried most brands of fully synthetic oil in my tdi, I do oil changes often, every 7500kms...The best oil i have used so far is the castrol edge and the liqui moly toptec 4100

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:38 am
by panic-mechanic
ANybody that uses castrol has never stripped an engine that ran on castrol all it's life. I'll never argue that they work and lubricate Ok - but man sludge and varnish is another story.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am
by Caddyon
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm Castrol Edge Prof ! They come in 1L bottles. Buy 5 of them and be done
I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:00 am
by Neuk
Marius Swart wrote: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:22 pm
Neuk wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 am If I had a choice, I wouldn't go near Castrol, I have used Shell for years on all my cars and have been very happy with it.
Why not Castrol ? I ran helix on all my vehicles , however after my wifes yaris service plan stopped i went from Toyota oil (total) to helix and found the engine more noisy than before , but i never had any issues with helix.
I trust the advice of panic-mechanic and g60 golf more than anyone else.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:15 am
by DJ7
Neuk wrote: Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:01 am If I had a choice, I wouldn't go near Castrol, I have used Shell for years on all my cars and have been very happy with it.
x2

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:18 am
by MarshallGTi
Marius Swart wrote: Sat Jul 07, 2018 2:37 pm Thanks , a friend of mine can get me the edge 5w30 for R110 per litre . Decided to go with that , willkeep you posted.
:fear: :fear: :fear:

go read up on the sheer forces between the PD injector and camshaft lobe, theres a reason they spec 505.01.......

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm
by Deranged_9n3
Caddyon wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm Castrol Edge Prof ! They come in 1L bottles. Buy 5 of them and be done
I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me
Any reason why you’d say this ?

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:29 pm
by Caddyon
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm
Caddyon wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm Castrol Edge Prof ! They come in 1L bottles. Buy 5 of them and be done
I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me
Any reason why you’d say this ?
As Panic said below
panic-mechanic wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:38 am ANybody that uses castrol has never stripped an engine that ran on castrol all it's life. I'll never argue that they work and lubricate Ok - but man sludge and varnish is another story.
I have seen what oil passages etc look like after years of running Castrol oils

also cam wearing is very apparent in cars running castrol vs other leading correct spec brands

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
by Unobeat
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm
Caddyon wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm Castrol Edge Prof ! They come in 1L bottles. Buy 5 of them and be done
I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me
Any reason why you’d say this ?
Deranged, if memory serves correctly, you have only used Castrol Edge Professional on the Polo and currently it is sitting on over 330 000km while being heavily modded and no issues with it to date.

You also using it in the Tiguan ne.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:10 pm
by Deranged_9n3
Unobeat wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm
Caddyon wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:08 pm Castrol Edge Prof ! They come in 1L bottles. Buy 5 of them and be done
I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me
Any reason why you’d say this ?
Deranged, if memory serves correctly, you have only used Castrol Edge Professional on the Polo and currently it is sitting on over 330 000km while being heavily modded and no issues with it to date.

You also using it in the Tiguan ne.
I purchased the vehicle on 160k, and currently sitting at about 290-295k km’s, 9 years down the line using Castrol Edge Prof sonce day 1. Yes also using it one the Tig, although I have only done 1 service on the tig in a years of ownership

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:27 pm
by Ashveer03
How often are u servicing it though? 10k/1yr?

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Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:36 pm
by Deranged_9n3
Ashveer03 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:27 pm How often are u servicing it though? 10k/1yr?

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Polo gets oil changes every 7500km or now that I don’t use it often, before a drag event I would do oil service

Tiguan is 15000km interval

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:23 pm
by Ashveer03
Maybe 7500km intervals is probably the reason u didnt have any sludge issues..

Also, we dont know how the "sludge engines" were maintained from new whether the service intervals were skipped or prolonged..

Toyota recommends castrol to most of their engines (2e/NZ vvti's, etc), if u look inside them - the sludge is scary.

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Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:19 am
by Unobeat
Ashveer03 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:23 pm Maybe 7500km intervals is probably the reason u didnt have any sludge issues..

Also, we dont know how the "sludge engines" were maintained from new whether the service intervals were skipped or prolonged..

Toyota recommends castrol to most of their engines (2e/NZ vvti's, etc), if u look inside them - the sludge is scary.

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I think so as well as Deranged is very sensitive with his oil changes.
Interestingly my daily Toyota Auris has been maintained using Shell oil from new by the dealer and even on their site, it is the recommended oil.
So i am also using using since i am doing the services myself.

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:04 am
by Ashveer03
Unobeat wrote:
Ashveer03 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:23 pm Maybe 7500km intervals is probably the reason u didnt have any sludge issues..

Also, we dont know how the "sludge engines" were maintained from new whether the service intervals were skipped or prolonged..

Toyota recommends castrol to most of their engines (2e/NZ vvti's, etc), if u look inside them - the sludge is scary.

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I think so as well as Deranged is very sensitive with his oil changes.
Interestingly my daily Toyota Auris has been maintained using Shell oil from new by the dealer and even on their site, it is the recommended oil.
So i am also using using since i am doing the services myself.
Maybe toyo realised their mistake haha

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Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:11 am
by MarshallGTi
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:10 pm
Unobeat wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm
Caddyon wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:46 am

I wouldnt use this oil if it was given to me
Any reason why you’d say this ?
Deranged, if memory serves correctly, you have only used Castrol Edge Professional on the Polo and currently it is sitting on over 330 000km while being heavily modded and no issues with it to date.

You also using it in the Tiguan ne.
I purchased the vehicle on 160k, and currently sitting at about 290-295k km’s, 9 years down the line using Castrol Edge Prof sonce day 1. Yes also using it one the Tig, although I have only done 1 service on the tig in a years of ownership
Would be keen to see what the inside of the head looks like, also not had the best experiences with Castrol

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:47 pm
by Unobeat
Ashveer03 wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:04 am
Unobeat wrote:
Ashveer03 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:23 pm Maybe 7500km intervals is probably the reason u didnt have any sludge issues..

Also, we dont know how the "sludge engines" were maintained from new whether the service intervals were skipped or prolonged..

Toyota recommends castrol to most of their engines (2e/NZ vvti's, etc), if u look inside them - the sludge is scary.

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I think so as well as Deranged is very sensitive with his oil changes.
Interestingly my daily Toyota Auris has been maintained using Shell oil from new by the dealer and even on their site, it is the recommended oil.
So i am also using using since i am doing the services myself.
Maybe toyo realised their mistake haha

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:lol: :lol:
My thoughts tooo

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:01 pm
by Unobeat
MarshallGTi wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:11 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:10 pm
Unobeat wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm Any reason why you’d say this ?
Deranged, if memory serves correctly, you have only used Castrol Edge Professional on the Polo and currently it is sitting on over 330 000km while being heavily modded and no issues with it to date.

You also using it in the Tiguan ne.
I purchased the vehicle on 160k, and currently sitting at about 290-295k km’s, 9 years down the line using Castrol Edge Prof sonce day 1. Yes also using it one the Tig, although I have only done 1 service on the tig in a years of ownership
Would be keen to see what the inside of the head looks like, also not had the best experiences with Castrol
See the link below:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=119564&hilit=deranged&start=2725

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 1:07 pm
by Deranged_9n3
MarshallGTi wrote: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:11 am
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:10 pm
Unobeat wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:08 pm
Deranged_9n3 wrote: Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:44 pm

Any reason why you’d say this ?
Deranged, if memory serves correctly, you have only used Castrol Edge Professional on the Polo and currently it is sitting on over 330 000km while being heavily modded and no issues with it to date.

You also using it in the Tiguan ne.
I purchased the vehicle on 160k, and currently sitting at about 290-295k km’s, 9 years down the line using Castrol Edge Prof sonce day 1. Yes also using it one the Tig, although I have only done 1 service on the tig in a years of ownership
Would be keen to see what the inside of the head looks like, also not had the best experiences with Castrol
Head was off at 260k odd for valves guides and valvestem seals. No issues at all. Also very little cam wear. Maybe I am the chosen one not to have issues with Castrol :lol:

But for my milleage, and cam wear indications I would def stick to Castrol Edge Prof till something else convinces me not too use Castrol anymore

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:52 am
by Marius Swart
Alot of opinions here . I went with Castrol. He had to do a special oder for me 5w30 505.01 approved as i read 5w30 has bit beter lube function over 5w40 . VW here says they only use castrol 505.01 approved oil.

As for shell as a toy mac we never used shell nor castrol only if clients wanted it. Total quartz is the " genuine " toyota oil and we never had issues , only when guys didnt service

I dont have anything bad to say about shell or castrol , both i would say is great oils . I change oil 5k - 7.5k , so the chance sludge will form i doubt that .

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:00 am
by Neuk
Marius Swart wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:52 amHe had to do a special oder for me 5w30 505.01 approved as i read 5w30 has bit beter lube function over 5w40
Why does a thicker oil provide better lubrication?

Re: 2008 Polo 1.9tdi Oil

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:05 am
by Marius Swart
Neuk wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:00 am
Marius Swart wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:52 amHe had to do a special oder for me 5w30 505.01 approved as i read 5w30 has bit beter lube function over 5w40
Why does a thicker oil provide better lubrication?
I read that somewhere beter for winter but believe its basicly the same