To buy or not to buy polo cross 1.6tdi 2010

[Azevedo.michael]

Polo cross 2010 1.6tdi with 200000km on the clock, with full service history done by VW.
Is it good buy or not and when is time for turbo change, injectors change. And how much more or less for these replacements.
Any other expenses that I could be facing for the future

Thank you

[8VALVE-zn]

Very expensive engine to sort out if things go A-walled

Turbo cost is around R7500 for the original unit (Garret)

Injector replacement cost is around R10k per injector

At that mileage you are at risk of the above, maybe have a good look at the history of the car other than its service history.

[panic-mechanic]

And they might or might not need it soon. You cannot know.

[Neuk]

I wasn't aware the newer CR motors had such expensive injectors I know about the older PD motors injectors being expensive, new anyway.

[MK2 G60]

They not that troublesome. Injectors are dam expensive between 8 to 13k each but they don't usually give problems. Turbos don't give problems that quick.The actuator can give issues as it electronic and in most cases can be bought lose. Egr cooler can give problems and that's expensive.
Egt sensors I have seen a few times. Remember dpf has a life span too and that is a expensive item to replace unless u remove and remap.

All the above is what can go wrong and to keep in mind.

[SemiColon]

Don't forget the DPF can give issues ~R25k

So worse case, R80k.

[Azevedo.michael]

Thanks for input guys, so a standard 1.6 petrol will be much better.

[HendrikCTI]

Thanks for input guys, so a standard 1.6 petrol will be much better.

Seems that would be your best choice. I have read too many (and especially expensive) issues with turbo VW engines.

[panic-mechanic]

All makes of cars have some issues. And all makes of turbo cars have some issue. It is not restricted to vw. Just remember that a turbo charger is not actually made by vw and is supplied by basically a few big companies across the world. Garrett/kkk/ihi so failures happen and to say that it is a vw only thing is a bit silly. But actual turbo failures are a lot less than it was years ago and quite a bot of it can be attributed to how the user treat the thing.

[Neuk]

Thanks for input guys, so a standard 1.6 petrol will be much better.

Seems that would be your best choice. I have read too many (and especially expensive) issues with turbo VW engines.

Care to share the stories? I have had three different VAG based turbo engines and not a single days issues so far...

[HendrikCTI]

I agree Panic. As this is a VW forum, I decided to keep it brand specific with my statement.

@Neuk. I have read frequent problems of turbo failures\problems on TDi's and on GTi's. Some with lowish km on the odo compared to naturally aspirated engines. The problem I have with this is that it can happen unexpectedly. A good example is when your car is loaded with family and you are on the open road on your way to a holiday destination. Yes, I know, a naturally aspirated car can also have a failure. my second reason is that these failures seem to be quite expensive to repair. For me a car is transportation from point a to point b and must be the most economical and reliable manner of transport.

Each one I think will have a different viewpoint on this but I am still a old school guy. I will always prefer naturally aspirated. It is technology that has been around for many years. I'm not convinced yet that turbo cars is as reliable, but it seems lately the engineers are slowly starting to get it right.

[Kavi4GP]

Friends one has 300000km+ never changed injectors.


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[Neuk]

I agree Panic. As this is a VW forum, I decided to keep it brand specific with my statement.

@Neuk. I have read frequent problems of turbo failures\problems on TDi's and on GTi's. Some with lowish km on the odo compared to naturally aspirated engines. The problem I have with this is that it can happen unexpectedly. A good example is when your car is loaded with family and you are on the open road on your way to a holiday destination. Yes, I know, a naturally aspirated car can also have a failure. my second reason is that these failures seem to be quite expensive to repair. For me a car is transportation from point a to point b and must be the most economical and reliable manner of transport.

Each one I think will have a different viewpoint on this but I am still a old school guy. I will always prefer naturally aspirated. It is technology that has been around for many years. I'm not convinced yet that turbo cars is as reliable, but it seems lately the engineers are slowly starting to get it right.

This, tells me the most...

I really don't hear of massive issues with turbo's these days, nothing like the E46 320d or 9n Polo PD130 failures. Turbo's are an additional failure point on an engine for sure but unless you have terrible luck or neglect to look after your car, these days there shouldn't be any reason why they aren't as reliable as N/A motors. Having said that though, I won't own a modern day high performance turbo car out of warranty/maintenance plan at this stage in my life, the costs to repair some of even the most simple issues are exorbitant.

[HendrikCTI]

I agree.

Thus the reason I recommended to him that a naturally aspirated will be a better choice. It starts to get expensive to keep a car in a maintenance plan the more km you clock on it. There comes a point where one have to bite the bullet and hope for the best and just drop the maintenance plan and look after your car yourself. This unfortunately is difficult to do for most people with turbo cars due to repair costs involved should something fail.

[panic-mechanic]

I keep a mixture of n/a and turbo cars so there is at least always something to drive. But in lots of cars and many km travelled I only had one turbo failure and that was in a golf 4 tdi. And yes on the way to a racing event weekend away. Had to get it towed home and take another car.

[Unobeat]

Howie brother car is sitting on over 200 000km and still going strong.

[Howie-WP]

Howie brother car is sitting on over 200 000km and still going strong.

285 000 km's (it is the 1.9TDi 74kw Cross), there is another one on the BB over 300 000km's as well. VGTI, I think??

[Unobeat]

Howie brother car is sitting on over 200 000km and still going strong.

285 000 km's (it is the 1.9TDi 74kw Cross), there is another one on the BB over 300 000km's as well. VGTI, I think??

Correct his car has some special masala mix, it is over 350 000km currently and still running the OEM turbo and clutch.