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Take it somewhere that can check for exhaust gas in the coolant water. Sounds like head gasket to me.
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Sinbad wrote:Take it somewhere that can check for exhaust gas in the coolant water. Sounds like head gasket to me.
Any idea where in CPT they can do this? Been to Radiator King twice. They could not find any problem
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TDIKop wrote:Ok still struggling.
Replaced waterpump as suggested by another expert. Cost me over a grand (parts and labour).
No joy.
Water still pushes out through overflow in reservoir.

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Thats head gasket bro.
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Can anybody suggest a reputable workshop in Cape Town, Northern suburbs.
That's for the head gasket job
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Grimz wrote:
TDIKop wrote:Ok still struggling.
Replaced waterpump as suggested by another expert. Cost me over a grand (parts and labour).
No joy.
Water still pushes out through overflow in reservoir.

Note to self. NEVER EVER buy VW crap again.
Thats head gasket bro.
I think I told you in another thread That you should check out the head gasket .

Here you go.
http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=166290
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Jip, as suggested, take it to experts. Sounds like head gasket.
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TDiKop, you can't go wrong with a VW diesel vehicle, especially a Golf - once fixed you will enjoy your ride, it is just unfortunate in your situation - trust me I enjoy my 2.0TDi. If you think VW is expensive try BMW and my friend you will be going from "bad to worse" for the lack of a better statement. I was also puzzled at some point with a leak that I could not find (if you read what I have experienced) and I still today appreciate everybody's advice to refrain from quick fixes. I "bit the bullet" and just removed the radiator (myself) and found a "hairline" leak and on the side between the two radiators, fixed it with 'QBond' and "Walla! :hurray: " I enjoy my TDi every minute of the day - the savings on diesel consumption, power and speed is more than worth it. :troll: Besides, you would need 2/3 litres of the G12 coolant @R75.00, excl. at VW which in my opinion is not expensive because remember that the substance of the VW coolant is made especially for your entire cooling system - pipes, engine block, water pump, etc. - so please avoid "shortcuts" and "cost cuts" because in the end it is going to cost you much more :( - by buying and using cheap / incompatible stuff :crazy: on your expensive car :driving:
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BazzyB wrote:TDiKop, you can't go wrong with a VW diesel vehicle, especially a Golf - once fixed you will enjoy your ride, it is just unfortunate in your situation - trust me I enjoy my 2.0TDi. If you think VW is expensive try BMW and my friend you will be going from "bad to worse" for the lack of a better statement. I was also puzzled at some point with a leak that I could not find (if you read what I have experienced) and I still today appreciate everybody's advice to refrain from quick fixes. I "bit the bullet" and just removed the radiator (myself) and found a "hairline" leak and on the side between the two radiators, fixed it with 'QBond' and "Walla! :hurray: " I enjoy my TDi every minute of the day - the savings on diesel consumption, power and speed is more than worth it. :troll: Besides, you would need 2/3 litres of the G12 coolant @R75.00, excl. at VW which in my opinion is not expensive because remember that the substance of the VW coolant is made especially for your entire cooling system - pipes, engine block, water pump, etc. - so please avoid "shortcuts" and "cost cuts" because in the end it is going to cost you much more :( - by buying and using cheap / incompatible stuff :crazy: on your expensive car :driving:
My problem is worse. The coolant turn grey to black in the reservoir.
Coolant is pushed back out by the overflow because there is too much pressure in the system. I am looking for a place that can test the coolant and tell me what's in there (maybe some exhaust gas or what ever) that causes so much pressure. When I open the reservoir after a drive a lot of gas comes out and the coolant is pushed up in the reservoir.
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Workshop quoted min 15K for head gasket replacement. And if the top is shot then way more.
Maybe just buy a recon engine then.
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are you saying 15 THOUSAND RAND for replacement of the head gasket? :eek: WTF? :mad: For the exercise, I have just phoned VW and the a gasket for a 2.0TDi sells @R833.79 (8hundred). I think you really have to reconsider your mechanic
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BazzyB wrote:are you saying 15 THOUSAND RAND for replacement of the head gasket? :eek: WTF? :mad: For the exercise, I have just phoned VW and the a gasket for a 2.0TDi sells @R833.79 (8hundred). I think you really have to reconsider your mechanic
I'm guessing (hoping) that the mech is also replacing cambelt, tensioner, waterpump, AND sending the head to engineering for a skim, new seals etc...
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Even so, cambelt with tensioner average 1.5 to 2grand; water pump (Goldwagen) R652.00 excl.; head skim, labour and other small parts can not be R12,500. :crazy:
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I suggest, check out this link www.vwpartscenter.net/ for VW online parts shopping as well. :type: All the Best! :noob:
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BazzyB wrote:are you saying 15 THOUSAND RAND for replacement of the head gasket? :eek: WTF? :mad: For the exercise, I have just phoned VW and the a gasket for a 2.0TDi sells @R833.79 (8hundred). I think you really have to reconsider your mechanic
Yes a cool R15 000. Top will be sent to engineers etc. No need for waterpump, thermostat etc as that was replaced not so long ago.
This is from a workshop, not a private mechie. Think I will phone up a private and see what he quotes.
My problem is, I want to be absolutely sure it is the head gasket.
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Ensure that your Water Bottle cap isnt faulty,Sometimes we think of the worst things,But avoid looking at small things that look like big problems.Its a small price to pay for a New Cap.Can save you $000000.
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Bud had the same problem on our AUDI 1.9tdi. The problem was where you connect the water temperature sensor. that t-piece is plastic and usually get a crack will only leak on pressure. it is a very cheap fix to buy that plastic part and replaced. you will see on the plastic white water marks will show.

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Thanks for the tips guys.
Edels: Will check plastic T piece, knowing myself I will probably never find it, but will look.

The idea of the cap sounds worthwhile. Also not too expensive. When I open cap there is a lot of pressure coming out. Don't know if this should be released by the cap automatically.
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No it should not be released by the cap.


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So had the car at a workshop for brakes and the okes said they will test the coolant for me.
Turns out there's exhaust gas in the coolant.
They phoned around to get quotes for parts and the head job.
Guess what, just the injectors alone will cost 14K.

I cannot believe that it is now practically uneconomical to repair the car myself. This is crap that to repair an engine costs more than what the car is worth.

I will just sell or trade. Maybe someone else can fix it for cheaper.

Buy VW or diesel again. Never.
Diesel engines is just too complicated.

BTW. I smelled the DPF (Diesel particulate filter), the other day, for the first time in months. That fucker was probably also blocked up.
I do not drive the car everyday as it is my wife's car.
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Why on earth do you need to replace injectors?
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Sinbad wrote:Why on earth do you need to replace injectors?
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Also, 1.9 TDI golf 5 has no DPF ...
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Sinbad wrote:Also, 1.9 TDI golf 5 has no DPF ...
? huh ?
So what's that thingy under the car, driver side, that's supposed to burn off the soot and causes that burning smell?

Anyways, this mystery will remain unsolved.
I traded the car and bough a Hyundai ix35. My wife is very happy, but still miss the golf.
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I just wanna find out if still having the same problem or you somehow managed to get what was causing the coolant to vanish.
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Nkubane wrote: Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:26 pm I just wanna find out if still having the same problem or you somehow managed to get what was causing the coolant to vanish.
Just the post above this post of yours, he mentioned that he did not find the cause and traded the car for a different car.
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