The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
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The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
So Rob roped us in to doing a pre-sale detail on the legendary Dubcorp caddy.
This van has been an icon of the shop for around 7 years now, proper workhorse.
Unfortunately, in recent years, the van has been parked outside and neglected(heavily)
We definitely had our work cut out for us on this one, the reason I'm posting this is to help the guys starting out in the professional detailing trade, there are a few important points that I would like to touch on.
Now all of us who detail professionally will know that time is the most important part when it comes to staying profitable, so let's discuss this in further detail:
Managing expectations
When tackling any detail, it's crucial to set realistic expectations for both you and the customer, it does come with experience, but generally as a professional detailer.. You will learn to scope out what is achievable in the time you have (And do not try to do more than this as it can become counter productive). If you try to do too much, it can actually be detrimental to the overall finish of the car(spending too much time on one task means you have less time for the next)
The second step would be to sit the customer down and explain to them what is possible given their budget and time you have available. You do not want to promise them too much and not deliver!
Managing time / Setting a task list
My second piece of advice is something that all detailers should be following,
Managing time is of utmost importance, make a task list according to the scope of work you are carrying out on the car, assign time limits and stick to them!
The main thing is, never bite of more than you can chew! Newer guys in the trade will aim for perfection with every car, but will often become frustrated because as we all know, some cars just don't have the potential to be perfect / customers will have budget constraints etc, you'll find that the overall product actually ends up looking better if you put a consistent amount of effort into every task.
[/lecture]
On to the detail:
We sat Rob down and told him what we thought was possible for this car / time available and he was in agreement that we should not aim for showroom perfection, rather have it look like a well maintained and clean vehicle.
Some Before Pics:
Here's how dull and chalky the paint was:
Interior was just as bad:
Removing the stickers was fun they had been on the vehicle for +- 7 years
After sticker removal:
We then mixed up an APC solution as a pre wash, to loosen up all this bonded dirt
Here we can see how the vinyl actually protected the paint from iron contamination
More bleeding shots
Looking much better after decontamination
Some before shots of the interiors
After(not perfect but much better)
Some progress shots:
Here we can see how bad the paint really is(compared to the areas that hav stickers over them)
And after:
Getting there:
And the results:
This van has been an icon of the shop for around 7 years now, proper workhorse.
Unfortunately, in recent years, the van has been parked outside and neglected(heavily)
We definitely had our work cut out for us on this one, the reason I'm posting this is to help the guys starting out in the professional detailing trade, there are a few important points that I would like to touch on.
Now all of us who detail professionally will know that time is the most important part when it comes to staying profitable, so let's discuss this in further detail:
Managing expectations
When tackling any detail, it's crucial to set realistic expectations for both you and the customer, it does come with experience, but generally as a professional detailer.. You will learn to scope out what is achievable in the time you have (And do not try to do more than this as it can become counter productive). If you try to do too much, it can actually be detrimental to the overall finish of the car(spending too much time on one task means you have less time for the next)
The second step would be to sit the customer down and explain to them what is possible given their budget and time you have available. You do not want to promise them too much and not deliver!
Managing time / Setting a task list
My second piece of advice is something that all detailers should be following,
Managing time is of utmost importance, make a task list according to the scope of work you are carrying out on the car, assign time limits and stick to them!
The main thing is, never bite of more than you can chew! Newer guys in the trade will aim for perfection with every car, but will often become frustrated because as we all know, some cars just don't have the potential to be perfect / customers will have budget constraints etc, you'll find that the overall product actually ends up looking better if you put a consistent amount of effort into every task.
[/lecture]
On to the detail:
We sat Rob down and told him what we thought was possible for this car / time available and he was in agreement that we should not aim for showroom perfection, rather have it look like a well maintained and clean vehicle.
Some Before Pics:
Here's how dull and chalky the paint was:
Interior was just as bad:
Removing the stickers was fun they had been on the vehicle for +- 7 years
After sticker removal:
We then mixed up an APC solution as a pre wash, to loosen up all this bonded dirt
Here we can see how the vinyl actually protected the paint from iron contamination
More bleeding shots
Looking much better after decontamination
Some before shots of the interiors
After(not perfect but much better)
Some progress shots:
Here we can see how bad the paint really is(compared to the areas that hav stickers over them)
And after:
Getting there:
And the results:
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Nicely Done.....
paint was really bad.
what steps were followed if you dont mind me asking?
and why was the 2-way-tape not removed from the front
paint was really bad.
what steps were followed if you dont mind me asking?
and why was the 2-way-tape not removed from the front
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Job well done Kyle, you really had your work cut out for you with this one.
Just needs a respray on that front bumper and new stickers then she can go work again.
Just needs a respray on that front bumper and new stickers then she can go work again.
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Thanks bud,Rsi huntered wrote:Nicely Done.....
paint was really bad.
what steps were followed if you dont mind me asking?
and why was the 2-way-tape not removed from the front
Paint was corrected using Sholl Concepts S17
The front bumper remained untouched by us as the paint was flaking off, going in for a respray anyway.
Thanks budDotDubb wrote:Job well done Kyle, you really had your work cut out for you with this one.
Just needs a respray on that front bumper and new stickers then she can go work again.
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Nyc Write up bud! Those Bleeding shots!! The paint has improved alot and much more presentable to the new buyer
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Nice work kyle, looks like new again.
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
came out great !!!
wowy
good work guys
how long did it take ?
wowy
good work guys
how long did it take ?
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Nice work guys
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Well done! this is a massive transformation
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Nicely done hobos!
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Well done guys
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
nice turn around, youl never say it was the same van after...
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Awesome job wow
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Thanks guys! appreciate the kind words
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
This!Kyle wrote:
We definitely had our work cut out for us on this one, the reason I'm posting this is to help the guys starting out in the professional detailing trade, there are a few important points that I would like to touch on.
Now all of us who detail professionally will know that time is the most important part when it comes to staying profitable, so let's discuss this in further detail:
Managing expectations
When tackling any detail, it's crucial to set realistic expectations for both you and the customer, it does come with experience, but generally as a professional detailer.. You will learn to scope out what is achievable in the time you have (And do not try to do more than this as it can become counter productive). If you try to do too much, it can actually be detrimental to the overall finish of the car(spending too much time on one task means you have less time for the next)
The second step would be to sit the customer down and explain to them what is possible given their budget and time you have available. You do not want to promise them too much and not deliver!
Managing time / Setting a task list
My second piece of advice is something that all detailers should be following,
Managing time is of utmost importance, make a task list according to the scope of work you are carrying out on the car, assign time limits and stick to them!
The main thing is, never bite of more than you can chew! Newer guys in the trade will aim for perfection with every car, but will often become frustrated because as we all know, some cars just don't have the potential to be perfect / customers will have budget constraints etc, you'll find that the overall product actually ends up looking better if you put a consistent amount of effort into every task.
[/lecture]
And, we understand this, but clients aren't always understanding to this.
It almost feels as if they're paying for a job half done.
The other, uglier side, is when you show the work done to others on a forum such as this, and you get comments like "But I can still see scratches/swirls"
Came out looking fresh again. Good job
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
I see that Rob is still a filthy KJ.
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Agree completely, some clients just have unrealistic expectations.... Which can become dangerous, I tend to stray away from taking on work from customers like this.GaVeN wrote:This!Kyle wrote:
We definitely had our work cut out for us on this one, the reason I'm posting this is to help the guys starting out in the professional detailing trade, there are a few important points that I would like to touch on.
Now all of us who detail professionally will know that time is the most important part when it comes to staying profitable, so let's discuss this in further detail:
Managing expectations
When tackling any detail, it's crucial to set realistic expectations for both you and the customer, it does come with experience, but generally as a professional detailer.. You will learn to scope out what is achievable in the time you have (And do not try to do more than this as it can become counter productive). If you try to do too much, it can actually be detrimental to the overall finish of the car(spending too much time on one task means you have less time for the next)
The second step would be to sit the customer down and explain to them what is possible given their budget and time you have available. You do not want to promise them too much and not deliver!
Managing time / Setting a task list
My second piece of advice is something that all detailers should be following,
Managing time is of utmost importance, make a task list according to the scope of work you are carrying out on the car, assign time limits and stick to them!
The main thing is, never bite of more than you can chew! Newer guys in the trade will aim for perfection with every car, but will often become frustrated because as we all know, some cars just don't have the potential to be perfect / customers will have budget constraints etc, you'll find that the overall product actually ends up looking better if you put a consistent amount of effort into every task.
[/lecture]
And, we understand this, but clients aren't always understanding to this.
It almost feels as if they're paying for a job half done.
The other, uglier side, is when you show the work done to others on a forum such as this, and you get comments like "But I can still see scratches/swirls"
Came out looking fresh again. Good job
If they expect more than what can be done on the car, and you take it on... it can really impact your reputation.
Sad thing is that they will probably find a detailer who will promise them the world and not deliver.
In terms of paying for a job half done point you made, I usually charge depending on the work being carried out on the vehicle, normally discuss this with the customer beforehand so that we're on the same wavelength and they know what to expect when collecting the vehicle.
At the end of the day, you're being paid for your service and time, how you quantify that is up to you... It isn't all about the money, since we all have a passion for the trade (But fair is fair).
A lot more could have been done to this particular vehicle, and maybe if we had weeks it could have looked close to perfect, but that just wasn't a realistic goal for this.
I am going to be doing a restoration detail on a Fiesta soon (Chicks car so unlimited time), should be fun to see what can be achieved there.
Thanks bud
Some things never changeNeuk wrote:I see that Rob is still a filthy KJ.
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
Amazing work man
F*** me, what a transformation
F*** me, what a transformation
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Thanks Bud!mikhail117 wrote:Amazing work man
F*** me, what a transformation
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'09 Ibiza Cupra 1.8T,
2013 Vivo Gran Turismo,
E36 M3 Coupe,
E46 320i Individual MSport,
'98 Civic V Tec,
E36 318is Msport,
E30 318i Coupe,
GOLF MK1 GT
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
hard work paid off with an awesome turnaround. looks so much smoother now. well done
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Well shaft me sideways, slap me silly and call me Suzie ... that is one helluva improvement!!!!
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Thanks guys
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'70 VW Beetle 1600 Twin Port
'00 A4 2.4 V6,
'09 Ibiza Cupra 1.8T,
2013 Vivo Gran Turismo,
E36 M3 Coupe,
E46 320i Individual MSport,
'98 Civic V Tec,
E36 318is Msport,
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GOLF MK1 GT
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Re: The Dubcorp Caddy resurrection
when I have got my caddy running again, I need to come and see you.
Mine looks the same as this...
Mine looks the same as this...
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