hey brew..come along..im coming with my SO, so its fine to bring your wife with..Very Wicked wrote:Hi Guys,
Count me in aswell!!
I stay in Pretoria, would like to convoy with the Gents and Ladies From here... might even invite my Wife...
It is only really a Show n' Shine and Treasure Hunt where we don't run these classes, but if you want to be pedantic, then noVentoGT wrote:Hello Nick,So, no, not really..?!Yes, when applicable, but you forgot the following classes:
Well, I didn't know you would join, so then you would fit in the A class which is for 2.0l and above as the B class is up to, but not including 2.0lVentoGT wrote:Nope, didn't forget at all. I run a 2E so clearly it's a VW, and if I was to participate I'd look at membership.Yes, when applicable, but you forgot the following classes:
So,I'm running a stock 2E (1985cc?) at the moment. Where would that fit in?
Hope that clears it up...We do basic safety scrutinising - tyres, battery, leaks, etc, etc and helmets are not compulsory for a gymkhana event...VentoGT wrote:Do you at least do safety scruteneering, and are helmets compulsory?What are the other regs for your events?
DarkRanger wrote:Let's see. 1985cc < 2.0L Which means B class.
Gents - We use the generally accepted size of an engine to guide allocation to classes, and this is often done on what the owener specifies on their entry form and is very difficult to check, especially with "frakenstein" motors, so we rely on honesty for the most part as we obviously can't always verify the size of an engine. So we take 1.3 and 1.4's as class C, same with 1.6's and then 1.8's in class B and 2.0's in class A...Titleists wrote:What's the use of the classes if a 1985cc engine is considered a 2000cc engine?
Then you might as well say a 1685cc engine is a 1700cc and a TDI is part of the forced induction class.
It has proved to be difficult to get a clear and straight answer on a simple question. Vague and cocky answers don't help. I was considering taking part in some events this year and coming from a racing background (cars and bikes) it's natural for me to want to know ahead of time exactly where I would slot in and therefore prep the car to be in a specific class and do mods which won't bounce me out of the class during the year.It is only really a Show n' Shine and Treasure Hunt where we don't run these classes, but if you want to be pedantic, then no
Neuk wrote:DarkRanger wrote:Let's see. 1985cc < 2.0L Which means B class.Gents - We use the generally accepted size of an engine to guide allocation to classes, and this is often done on what the owener specifies on their entry form and is very difficult to check, especially with "frakenstein" motors, so we rely on honesty for the most part as we obviously can't always verify the size of an engine. So we take 1.3 and 1.4's as class C, same with 1.6's and then 1.8's in class B and 2.0's in class A...Titleists wrote:What's the use of the classes if a 1985cc engine is considered a 2000cc engine?
Then you might as well say a 1685cc engine is a 1700cc and a TDI is part of the forced induction class.
So yes there is teh opportunity for someone to lie and cheat the system, it is not fool proof, but seriously, if a trophy at a club event means that much to you that you need to put your 2.0 in Class C, then you need more help than just a trophy...
Cheers
Nic
There must be some misunderstanding - Where am I vague and cocky?VentoGT wrote:Hey Nick,
It has proved to be difficult to get a clear and straight answer on a simple question. Vague and cocky answers don't help. I was considering taking part in some events this year and coming from a racing background (cars and bikes) it's natural for me to want to know ahead of time exactly where I would slot in and therefore prep the car to be in a specific class and do mods which won't bounce me out of the class during the year.It is only really a Show n' Shine and Treasure Hunt where we don't run these classes, but if you want to be pedantic, then no
But thanks for your clarification.
Bwahahahaha - Not at all, not at allKibim wrote:Seems Neuk's got his pink panties in a twist this morning!
Yep, we welcome anyone and everyone running whatever you gotKibim wrote:Please come along and compete, it's always great to have some pro-competition, and there are several very serious competitors at gymkhanas.
Yep, and things tend to even themselves out over different eventsKibim wrote:As Neuk mentioned tho, the class definitions are nearly impossibly to enforce. We don't know if someone's running a stroker kit or a machined crank to increace capacity. We rely on honest competitors. I think our class definitions are fair, are engine capacities are on a 'close enough' basis. You're only 15cc's off a 2.0l, which is less than a shot-glass. So yes, you'd definitely be in class A. Someone with a 1945cc engine may be a different story, but I'm not sure of any manufacturer's making anything that size, so perhaps then a stroked 1800? But that's well within class B.
Most drag events have a cyl-number classing system, but as a VWClub, we're 95% 4cyls. So then everyone's competing against eachother. We've tried to split stuff up so it's competitive in classes. Please don't make it impossible for us to have fun by nit-picking every details (and this is a global plea, not just aimed at one person...)
Your answer was a bit vague, as in it didn't answer my question, there were also contradicting answers from other people...Not rocket science is it? Or am I missing something?
He He - Sorry man, get's confusing with all these guys answering the same questionVentoGT wrote:Relax bud, I was refering to this fool...
Your answer was a bit vague, as in it didn't answer my question, there were also contradicting answers from other people...Not rocket science is it? Or am I missing something?
I've been around for a while, participating in VWClub events as far back as the early 90's, I was around in the days when Stephan built his red Mk2 turbo golf, but haven't been to your events in a long time and was just looking for some info...
I hope we have cleared it up for you, but if not, PM me and we can clear it up Anyway, it is always great to have the "older" membrs wanting to get involved in the club, we have much to learn from you guys...Such is life on the internetsVentoGT wrote:Damn, why do there have to be so many handbag-swinging-panty-wearers on some forums...?!?
born2boost wrote:Hi Guys...
I'd like to join in this...can I enter with my BMW 325is Turbo? If so, What class would I fall under?
Thanks
Unless you join the club, in which case you will be in class M which is for club members driving non-VW's...Kibim wrote:Absolutely you can. Class will be 'O' for you.
Thanks for that.VentoGT wrote:Relax bud, I was refering to this fool...
Not rocket science is it? Or am I missing something?
in this thread is you. Relax man. If someone says something, don't take it so serious.VentoGT wrote:handbag-swinging-panty-wearers
<- this should have given the bit of humour away in my reply.Neuk wrote:A pole, doth not a lie tell...
VentoGT wrote:
Relax bud, I was refering to this fool...
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Not rocket science is it? Or am I missing something?
Le Clue wrote:Just look out for a place where 16 year old girls have 3 children (inbred), Everyone drives pimped Ford Escorts and the dogs are scared of the childrensibusisom wrote:Where is this place guys?
The Rock Raceway,
18 Main Reef Road, Brakpan.
Johannesburg
Directions(Di "rock" tions)
Getting to The Rock is pretty easy no matter where you are coming from! Yes it's in "The Pan" but it's only a 35min hop from Sandton. (Unless Tim "V12" Stephens is driving in which case its only 10mins!)
You need to get onto the N3 if you are coming from the north or south. When you happen upon GILLOOLYʼS interchange, you want to follow the signs for the N12 WITBANK. This is the same junction as if you were headed to the airport.
From PRETORIA, it is quicker to take the R24, cut through BENONI and then hang LEFT onto SNAKE ROAD.
If you live in the East Rand, get yourself onto the N12.
Once you are on the N12, you head straight till you get to "SNAKE ROAD".
When you are on SNAKE ROAD (turn RIGHT when you come off the highway), you will be looking out for MAIN REEF ROAD. At the fifth set of traffic lights hang a LEFT onto MAIN REEF ROAD move over to right hand lane travel straight for +- 3km.
You will go under a bridge and then you want to look out for The Rock on the left.
Easy!
GPS Co-ordinates
S26 * 14' 41, 6'
E28 * 21' 09, 4'
mmmm that not goodLe Clue wrote:Well that comes from their website....
Yip, it's the only place in SA where a couple are able to divorce and stay brother and sister....N.K GTI wrote:Le Clue wrote: Just look out for a place where 16 year old girls have 3 children (inbred), Everyone drives pimped Ford Escorts and the dogs are scared of the children
+1, and getting lost in Brakpan is pretty scary...N.K GTI wrote:
hey ppl please just double check the gps co-ordinates last time they took us to an open field and not just me there where a couple of ppl that ended up in the middle of nowhere
As has been mentioned, those are their supplied GPS co-ordinates, not teh VWCSA's, so we can take no responsibility...Team TDI wrote:+1, and getting lost in Brakpan is pretty scary...N.K GTI wrote:
hey ppl please just double check the gps co-ordinates last time they took us to an open field and not just me there where a couple of ppl that ended up in the middle of nowhere
Pleasure...VentoGT wrote:Hey Nick, Kibim, thanks for your informed replies...
With your replies I can now decide whether to enter class B,M or O depending on what car I decide to enter and whether I join or not.
Sha'p!
There is pre-registration available if you would like to take advantage of it, check the first post for more details...GThigh wrote:Any rules and regs for the event i.e race suits and helmets being compulsory ??
We will have trophies for the top 3 places in each class...GThigh wrote:Also is there a prize for 'longest day'
