2011 Polo GTI issues

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Hi Guys

So, These are the current issues i am having with my car and also what has been done to it etc.

I purchased the car pre-owned in December 2013. Had 64 000kms on the clock, full service history and still under warranty.
The Engine and gear box was replaced on 60 000km. Its been to every single service when required since i took ownership.

About 6 months later i had a DP installed with stage 2 software (Will announce the name if allowed). All ran 100%.
6 months later radiator went (fan vibrations wore threw the channels), found out warranty expired...i was not a happy man..at all!

We took a trip down to EC from PTA within a week of replacement. About 3 hours into the drive the car started jerking when over taking. Very strange so i pulled over, checked what it could have been, couldn't see any visible problems. All fluids were perfect. Went in for its 90 000km service (30 000km done on new engine) 3 weeks before trip.
Problem continued, and started getting worse, engine light started flashing and power dropped, pulled right over, engine light still flashing and idle normal.
Few seconds later it went off. For the remaining trip this is what i had.

Once arrived i did a further inspection and checked what i could (I'm not a technical person when it comes to car engines) and found a pipe split open and no longer joined to the part it should have been, see below (not my vehicle)
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I managed to get some of that silicone piping, and currently still have that. I don't know exactly what that pipe was or if it even started the issues?

Once back in PTA, knowing the warranty is expired, the agents were the last people on my list, as the charge an arm and a leg just to source the problem.

I took it to a tuner to run codes? (Not sure on technical term) and found Cylinder 1 and 2 misfire. Codes were cleared and asked to push the car until it throws another engine light.
Back to them the next day, cylinder 1 and 2 misfire again. The plugs were then replaced as on all the service invoices not one showed plug replacement and apparently they had out lived their life-span. The fuel filter was also replaced.

Vehicle ran perfect for not even 200km. Codes then showed cylinder 1 and 2 misfire plus multiple misfire. Again codes were cleared and asked to push the car until light shows, which i did and showed the same error.

Coil packs were then changed, again ran for under 200km and started again. Codes then showed all 4 cylinders misfire and multiple cylinder misfire.
Was then told the software could be burning out the plugs. Software changed back to stock by VW. Plugs replaced, problem still there.

I gave up with this chap and moved over to a shop that 'specializes' in engines, 2 weeks later they couldn't source the problem.
Was referred to another person, 1 week later same story.

This has been going on for 5 months now and i still sit with these 'misfires'
Can't even drive to the local shops without these intense jerks/misfires which occur completely random at any rev/gear/time/temp/manual or DSG.

Any advice on this will be much appreciated, i am at the point of selling it, which i really don't want to do!


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Im sorry buddy... wont be off any help but keep us informed
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Yoh thats heavy man. Why was the motor and gearbox replaced? Seems like that car was badly abused by the previous owner :bang:

Try posting your story here:

http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=138360

I'm sure they could give you some advice.

Have you tried to replace your injectors, or even had them tested?
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Hi

Well according to VW, factory default on engine, excessive oil usage. Gear box, have no idea!

I thought of getting a much input from you guys 1st before i go and start spending money again...
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I'm sorry to hear about your issues bud... I had a similar problem with my MKV K04... swop your coil packs around and see if the misfire is still on the same cylinder... If the Misfire is still on the same cylinder, swop your plugs around to see if the misfire is on a different cylinder... this will help ascertain if your coil packs or plugs are faulty...
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K04 wrote:I'm sorry to hear about your issues bud... I had a similar problem with my MKV K04... swop your coil packs around and see if the misfire is still on the same cylinder... If the Misfire is still on the same cylinder, swop your plugs around to see if the misfire is on a different cylinder... this will help ascertain if your coil packs or plugs are faulty...
That would have been fine when he was experiencing the misfires on only cylinder 1 &2, but if you read it again, he now has misfires on all cylinders.

Unfortunately OP I can't help. I don't have enough knowledge in this regard.

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K04 wrote:

I'm sorry to hear about your issues bud... I had a similar problem with my MKV K04... swop your coil packs around and see if the misfire is still on the same cylinder... If the Misfire is still on the same cylinder, swop your plugs around to see if the misfire is on a different cylinder... this will help ascertain if your coil packs or plugs are faulty...




That would have been fine when he was experiencing the misfires on only cylinder 1 &2, but if you read it again, he now has misfires on all cylinders.

Unfortunately OP I can't help. I don't have enough knowledge in this regard.

Good luck. :thumbup:
True that... Second guess would be injectors....
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I don't understand why the advice from a mechanic or tuner would be "push the car" to see if problem comes back. Does that mean drive the car hard? If so, why would you want to drive a car with a misfire hard?
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ambroseg1 wrote:I don't understand why the advice from a mechanic or tuner would be "push the car" to see if problem comes back. Does that mean drive the car hard? If so, why would you want to drive a car with a misfire hard?

My understanding reading the post is that, the mechanic advised that he drive the car hard until the issue resurfaces again :eek: :eek:
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Unobeat wrote:
ambroseg1 wrote:I don't understand why the advice from a mechanic or tuner would be "push the car" to see if problem comes back. Does that mean drive the car hard? If so, why would you want to drive a car with a misfire hard?

My understanding reading the post is that, the mechanic advised that he drive the car hard until the issue resurfaces again :eek: :eek:
OK. But surely he can just drive the car normally? Why specifically hard? To achieve what? Unless the problem ONLY surfaces when car is driven hard.
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Hi, thanks for the replies so far.

Yes, push the car as in drive it hard. Reason for this is, regardless how I drive the misfire is there but a check engine light only flashes in high revs.
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i have the 2014 model and so far i have 30000km on it and not a drop of oil extra. My cuz works at VW and remember sometime back a gti had issues like yours. problem was cured by replacing 4 injectors and wiring. If you dont come right with plugs and coils pack tests then id get those injectors tested. good luck bud
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keval wrote:i have the 2014 model and so far i have 30000km on it and not a drop of oil extra. My cuz works at VW and remember sometime back a gti had issues like yours. problem was cured by replacing 4 injectors and wiring. If you dont come right with plugs and coils pack tests then id get those injectors tested. good luck bud

Get you cuz to hook him up................
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Hi Buddy, so sorry to hear about your ball ache, ps I have a 2011 polo gti too with 47000 on the clock, encountered that problem on a few months ago.
It took 3 visits to vw Northcliff to sort, new spark plugs, and 2 new ignition coils later it seems to have been sorted, no issues since then and I have covered over 1500 km of driving. Ps my car is still on maintenance plan so that does help. I must say, I got a little despondent when it kept on going into limp mode and trips back and forward to vw to sort. But with much fighting it is resolved and this is one of the most fun vw's I have owned, I have never topped oil, I get a decent fuel consumption, and I surprise alot of the bigger turbo cars on the road. So I really hope you get it sorted, sometines its worth using the dealer, at least they give you a 12 month guarantee. Which is better especially with such fiddly issues. I know cause I have been down this road with one of my older cars, yes the cars were simpler then, but the ignition timing issue was eventually resolved by the dealer. Good luck buddy hope you get it sorted soon
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JAZ wrote:
keval wrote:i have the 2014 model and so far i have 30000km on it and not a drop of oil extra. My cuz works at VW and remember sometime back a gti had issues like yours. problem was cured by replacing 4 injectors and wiring. If you dont come right with plugs and coils pack tests then id get those injectors tested. good luck bud

Get you cuz to hook him up................
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keval wrote:
JAZ wrote:
keval wrote:i have the 2014 model and so far i have 30000km on it and not a drop of oil extra. My cuz works at VW and remember sometime back a gti had issues like yours. problem was cured by replacing 4 injectors and wiring. If you dont come right with plugs and coils pack tests then id get those injectors tested. good luck bud

Get you cuz to hook him up................
his in durban though....
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Hi, sorry to hear abt the issues you've been having.

I've had a 2011 PGTi prior to changing to a 2014 model and had the exact same issues
On my 2011, had it from new, gave me endless hassles from 9000km
Random misfire is what I'd call it.
Jumps through all of the cylinders @ random.

Asses @ AlpineVW could never find the fault.
They replaced Sensors pipes plugs coilpacks etc.
But the random misfire would always came bk.
@ 3x000km they found a break in the wiring loom.
@ 44000km the car stalled again.
They sd there was no compression in cylinder 2.
Had to replace piston rings (larger)
Car was flying thereafter.
But my warranty was cuming to an end.
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So i jumped into a 2014 PGTi and haven't had a days problem.

Neways my opinion, I'm certain its a break in your wiring loom.
Those wires go to a lug that clips onto a Sensor that controls ur coils iirc.
If you were in durban i would have gladly pointed out the lug of which the wires wer repaired.

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Just a quick update.

Vehicle continued to get worse up to a point where it would constantly light up the EPC light and had to stop. Alternator went, had to replace that, exhaust kept coming loose to a point where the down pipe and tail end disconnected. Misfires heavily under any driving conditions.

Too many problems and unfortunately had to say good bye to it on Thursday, and due to this crazy downhill battle for 7 months i will no longer be a VW driver...
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KendallRous wrote:Just a quick update.

Vehicle continued to get worse up to a point where it would constantly light up the EPC light and had to stop. Alternator went, had to replace that, exhaust kept coming loose to a point where the down pipe and tail end disconnected. Misfires heavily under any driving conditions.

Too many problems and unfortunately had to say good bye to it on Thursday, and due to this crazy downhill battle for 7 months i will no longer be a VW driver...
That makes two of us!

After my PGTI gave me hassles and the skelms at VWSA refused to fix it, i jumped ship.

Well, not completely, i still have my faithful mk4 GTI. But i really don't want another VW that has warranty and Motorplan. You pay premium to be robbed blind by VWSA when something goes wrong.

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KendallRous wrote:Just a quick update.

Vehicle continued to get worse up to a point where it would constantly light up the EPC light and had to stop. Alternator went, had to replace that, exhaust kept coming loose to a point where the down pipe and tail end disconnected. Misfires heavily under any driving conditions.

Too many problems and unfortunately had to say good bye to it on Thursday, and due to this crazy downhill battle for 7 months i will no longer be a VW driver...
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Hi Guys, which Vw dealers were you using to diagnose the faults? I have changed from dealers the last 4000km, my car started showing the old symptom of the shudder,loss of power and eventually limp mode . Took to Vw hydepark where I serviced it last and they got online with Vw Germany and diagnosed damaged wires on the intake manifold. Non the less they replaced the wires and harness there and the car has been driving better than new. Ps when asking how those wires would have broken, the previous dealer who replaced coil packs could have damaged them by plugging in and plugging out the coil packs. Non the less it is sorted and I will keep on using vw Hydepark. They understand how fussy I am :troll:
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Hi guys im new here... I have a 2011 polo gti and my gosh vehicle just giving me sorry for my French but ****!!! My whole motor is now stripped and this mechanic dude saying my head needed to be skimmed and valves needed replacement and now says pistons cracked!!! And im running out of time since my car has been standing in his yard for the past month and a bit now.... Let me explain how my vehicle ended up where it is... I was driving my vehicle to work and back and then the vehicle would like go into limp mode or whatever you call it eg. I couldn't rev up over 3000 rpm and vehicle would like wanna switch off and then the engine management light would come on and i would pull over to switch the car off leaving me normally late for work everytime but any after a while i would start again to find light still on but suddenly power was restored and i could rev it up again... This happened for a couple of months and one Sunday night after i just dropped my son and wife off at her parents i went to the shop and when leaving the car had a seriously funny noise when revs picked up and engine light flashed but luckily i was around the corner from where my car would be parked for the night so drove it back there worried as hell!!! The next morning when leaving for work i tried starting and the engine just turned over but did not start at all and so yes so the story goes for my car!!! Any ideas about going forth on getting my vehicle 100% again please?????
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It's very hard if it is already somewhere and stripped. if you don't trust what the mechanic dude is telling you then why did you take it somebody you don't trust?.
What kind of KM does it have on.?
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KendallRous wrote:Hi Guys

So, These are the current issues i am having with my car and also what has been done to it etc.

I purchased the car pre-owned in December 2013. Had 64 000kms on the clock, full service history and still under warranty.
The Engine and gear box was replaced on 60 000km. Its been to every single service when required since i took ownership.

About 6 months later i had a DP installed with stage 2 software (Will announce the name if allowed). All ran 100%.
6 months later radiator went (fan vibrations wore threw the channels), found out warranty expired...i was not a happy man..at all!

We took a trip down to EC from PTA within a week of replacement. About 3 hours into the drive the car started jerking when over taking. Very strange so i pulled over, checked what it could have been, couldn't see any visible problems. All fluids were perfect. Went in for its 90 000km service (30 000km done on new engine) 3 weeks before trip.
Problem continued, and started getting worse, engine light started flashing and power dropped, pulled right over, engine light still flashing and idle normal.
Few seconds later it went off. For the remaining trip this is what i had.

Once arrived i did a further inspection and checked what i could (I'm not a technical person when it comes to car engines) and found a pipe split open and no longer joined to the part it should have been, see below (not my vehicle)
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I managed to get some of that silicone piping, and currently still have that. I don't know exactly what that pipe was or if it even started the issues?

Once back in PTA, knowing the warranty is expired, the agents were the last people on my list, as the charge an arm and a leg just to source the problem.

I took it to a tuner to run codes? (Not sure on technical term) and found Cylinder 1 and 2 misfire. Codes were cleared and asked to push the car until it throws another engine light.
Back to them the next day, cylinder 1 and 2 misfire again. The plugs were then replaced as on all the service invoices not one showed plug replacement and apparently they had out lived their life-span. The fuel filter was also replaced.

Vehicle ran perfect for not even 200km. Codes then showed cylinder 1 and 2 misfire plus multiple misfire. Again codes were cleared and asked to push the car until light shows, which i did and showed the same error.

Coil packs were then changed, again ran for under 200km and started again. Codes then showed all 4 cylinders misfire and multiple cylinder misfire.
Was then told the software could be burning out the plugs. Software changed back to stock by VW. Plugs replaced, problem still there.

I gave up with this chap and moved over to a shop that 'specializes' in engines, 2 weeks later they couldn't source the problem.
Was referred to another person, 1 week later same story.

This has been going on for 5 months now and i still sit with these 'misfires'
Can't even drive to the local shops without these intense jerks/misfires which occur completely random at any rev/gear/time/temp/manual or DSG.

Any advice on this will be much appreciated, i am at the point of selling it, which i really don't want to do!


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Let someone take a compression test, had a couple of the polo gti's and a lot of audi 1.8l and 2.0l that due to software problems that can't cope with our bad fuel it damage ring glands on the pistons, detination cause it.
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Wessel Just the last post is currently valid. He went and resurected an old post again instead of starting a fresh one
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