A4 2.0T or VW CC 2.0T or MKVI GTi

Heinvr · Post by **Heinvr** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 2:53 pm

Hi, Everyone.

So I'm in the market for a new car.
Considering
1. VW CC 2.0t (2012 or newer)
2. A4 2.0T (2012 or newer)
3. VW GTi MK6

A petrol CC is bloody hard to find.

The A4 (this is according to WeBuyCars) has endless problems with oil lights and oil leaks, all of which results in an R80k repair bill (to the point that WBC doesn't finance the A4 anymore). I find this hard to believe. If this was true, won't these issues plague the VW's too?

A clean GTi is near impossible to find.

What are your thoughts?
Any reason to go for either of the 3 cars?
What about the oil leak story on the A4?

Thanks!

J-10-M · Post by **J-10-M** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:05 pm

It depends on your needs, the car with the most amount of comfort and value for money will probably be the CC. It is the larger car and I would go with the CC over the A4, just because im not a fan of the newer gen A4's.

Post by **Neuk** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:25 pm

Out of that lot, a 3.6 V6 CC

J-10-M · Post by **J-10-M** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:52 pm

Neuk wrote:Out of that lot, a 3.6 V6 CC

Regrets for not buying Sixteen10's one... was such a bargain

Post by **Neuk** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 3:54 pm

J-10-M wrote:
Neuk wrote:Out of that lot, a 3.6 V6 CC
Regrets for not buying Sixteen10's one... was such a bargain

I would have bought if it were 18 months from now but I am not ready to replace my R just yet. I have always loved CC's and will own a VR motor in some form at some stage.

Hoosier Daddy · Post by **Hoosier Daddy** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:39 pm

Have a clean Mk VI right here

Post by **Howie-WP** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 4:26 pm

Neuk wrote:Out of that lot, a 3.6 V6 CC

End of story.

Post by **marzbars** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:39 pm

Every forum member who have had both the MK5 GTI and MK6 GTI will tell you that the MK5 build quality is better.
You might get an A4 for cheaper but once you try to sell, you will be sorry you did not go for the GTI
The EOS also came with a 2.0T

Heinvr · Post by **Heinvr** » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:54 pm

Thanks, chaps...

Hoosier Daddy wrote:Have a clean Mk VI right here

HD, where? I'm lost...

Looks like I will have to keep searching for CC.
Only reason i won't go for the 3,2 is fuel economy.

Unobeat · Post by **Unobeat** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:01 am

Heinvr wrote:Thanks, chaps...

Hoosier Daddy wrote:Have a clean Mk VI right here
HD, where? I'm lost...

don't be lost.
He means this beauty: http://www.vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic ... start=1300

The Shaikh · Post by **The Shaikh** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:22 am

Heinvr wrote:Hi, Everyone.

So I'm in the market for a new car.
Considering
1. VW CC 2.0t (2012 or newer)
2. A4 2.0T (2012 or newer)
3. VW GTi MK6

Because AUDIs are cool

Transporter - AUDI A8
Wolverine - Lots of R8s
Taken - AUDI A8
I Robot - RSQ
Iron Man - R8
From Paris with Love _ AUDi 8
Ronin - AUDI S8
3 Days to Kill - AUDI A8
HITMAN AGENT 47 - RS7

Movies with GTIs

Pitch Perfect 2
Jason Bourne... the worst one ever made

VW CC

The foreigner
Rush
Hunted

Sorry if my response adds nothing to this conversation.

Sabretooth Tiger · Post by **Sabretooth Tiger** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:33 am

If it was my choice between the cars you mentioned, I would go for the CC. Purely because its more exclusive than a A4, I love the lines on it, such a good looking car, and it has plenty of space.

Since you have owned Jettas from mrk2 to mrk5, and mentioned the concern about fuel economy, why not also throw in a Mrk6 Jetta Tdi into your options. You can choose between 1.6 and 2.0 Tdi. 2.0Tdi is just very rare.

dazza · Post by **dazza** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:19 pm

CC's are nice, don't have enough experience though to comment.
A4 2.0T - I think of sales reps when I see them, nice comfy cars but not exactly a looker
MKVI GTI - Currently have one, fuel consumption is amazing for what it is, looks relatively good and takes to mods very well.

What's your budget, a clean GTI can be a bit pricey still. For the right price mine is for sale

Jueshen · Post by **Jueshen** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:15 pm

this reminds me of the burnt CC thread

Post by **Howie-WP** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:50 pm

Heinvr wrote: Looks like I will have to keep searching for CC.
Only reason i won't go for the 3,2 is fuel economy.

If I recall correctly, sixteen10 got pretty decent fuel economy on his CC, nowhere as heavy as the Mk5 .:R32......... but obviously not in the TDi league.

J-10-M · Post by **J-10-M** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:20 pm

The Shaikh wrote:
Heinvr wrote:Hi, Everyone.

So I'm in the market for a new car.
Considering
1. VW CC 2.0t (2012 or newer)
2. A4 2.0T (2012 or newer)
3. VW GTi MK6

Because AUDIs are cool

Transporter - AUDI A8
Wolverine - Lots of R8s
Taken - AUDI A8
I Robot - RSQ
Iron Man - R8
From Paris with Love _ AUDi 8
Ronin - AUDI S8
3 Days to Kill - AUDI A8
HITMAN AGENT 47 - RS7

Just emphasizing the fact that none of those are A4's

ICE King · Post by **ICE King** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:46 pm

MK6 GTI cause will hold a resale value when you decide to sell.

The CC and A4 being a more premium car.

Numerous reports of Audi's(various models) consuming oil and dealer's saying it's normal however there are one's that don't.

Post by **panic-mechanic** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:35 pm

Ice king it is not just the audi that has that problem. It is shared by VW's with the same motor.

Crackerjack0910 · Post by **Crackerjack0910** » Thu Jul 20, 2017 7:58 pm

I'm loving my 2013 CC TDI. The facelift is so much better than the previous one. Just did a trip down to KZN and got 1300km on the 65L tank, fully loaded car.

Really comfortable, lots of creature comforts, massively spacious. Really surprised how quickly I adapted to it coming from my GTi.

The Shaikh · Post by **The Shaikh** » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:05 am

J-10-M wrote:
The Shaikh wrote:
Heinvr wrote:Hi, Everyone.

So I'm in the market for a new car.
Considering
1. VW CC 2.0t (2012 or newer)
2. A4 2.0T (2012 or newer)
3. VW GTi MK6

Because AUDIs are cool

Transporter - AUDI A8
Wolverine - Lots of R8s
Taken - AUDI A8
I Robot - RSQ
Iron Man - R8
From Paris with Love _ AUDi 8
Ronin - AUDI S8
3 Days to Kill - AUDI A8
HITMAN AGENT 47 - RS7

Just emphasizing the fact that none of those are A4's

Hmmmm that is.... true

Heinvr · Post by **Heinvr** » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:30 pm

panic-mechanic wrote:Ice king it is not just the audi that has that problem. It is shared by VW's with the same motor.

Any idea which motors would be affected?
My '06 2.0T (BWA, I think, has given zero isues in +- 330k kilos..?

Will it be all 2.oT motors? Was I just lucky?

MaX · Post by **MaX** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:23 am

I have owned a 2012 A4 2.0T, 2014 A4 2.0T Quattro, 2015 A4 2.0TDI Multi and a 2012 VW CC TSI. The CC is a much sportier drive than the Audi and puts its power down much better. The CC is also lighter on petrol and better looking. Neither of these two cars hold their values well so you can pick up some seriously good bargains. CC shares parts with the G6 GTI so should be cheaper to maintain out of plan.

If it was my money, I would get a 2.0TSI CC if I like sporty driving, if I want to save money, I would get a CC TDI.

Heinvr · Post by **Heinvr** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:30 am

MaX wrote:I have owned a 2012 A4 2.0T, 2014 A4 2.0T Quattro, 2015 A4 2.0TDI Multi and a 2012 VW CC TSI. The CC is a much sportier drive than the Audi and puts its power down much better. The CC is also lighter on petrol and better looking. Neither of these two cars hold their values well so you can pick up some seriously good bargains. CC shares parts with the G6 GTI so should be cheaper to maintain out of plan.

If it was my money, I would get a 2.0TSI CC if I like sporty driving, if I want to save money, I would get a CC TDI.

Thanks Max - it's like you're reading my mind.

How was your experience with the A4's - any major issues re oil use or oil leaks? I just don't buy the WeBuyCars guy's story.

MaX · Post by **MaX** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:21 am

I had no issues with any of my Audi or VW cars.

Hotdubz · Post by **Hotdubz** » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:17 pm

I'm biased but the A4 B8 2.0t is a really great car, but you have to get one with a nice list of extras.

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